Re:Grokipedia by xAI has just launched with 885,279 articles
by LudwigNagasena on Tuesday October 28, 2025 @06:28AM
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By "apartheid apologetics" do you mean that it is factually wrong or merely that you dislike the framing? I think there is a huge difference between those two accusations.
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Re:Grokipedia by xAI has just launched with 885,279 articles
by croes on Tuesday October 28, 2025 @07:42AM
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>A prevailing narrative depicts apartheid as a system of unremitting total oppression for black South Africans, yet empirical data indicate substantial advancements in black literacy and real wages during the era.
This is a false contradiction. You can oppress people and still pay them higher wages and fight illteracy.
Re:Grokipedia by xAI has just launched with 885,279 articles
by dmix on Tuesday October 28, 2025 @12:52PM
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It's not presenting that as an opinion or purely facts-based though, it's documenting other narratives that exist in the world under a "Legacy and Critical Assessments" headline.
Re:Grokipedia by xAI has just launched with 885,279 articles
by croes on Tuesday October 28, 2025 @01:21PM
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It presents a false logic like it's not A because B but B has nothing to do with A.
You can say, you are not poor because you own a house but you can not claim you are not poor because you can read.
That's not another narrative that's a false contradiction
Re:Grokipedia by xAI has just launched with 885,279 articles
by sebastiennight on Tuesday October 28, 2025 @03:00PM
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You're describing a very charitable scenario. You might get those outcomes while still fighting against literacy and high wages.
Since a rising tide lifts all boats, in a growing economy you might see wages, literacy and health outcomes improve nominally for an oppressed group, in absolute terms, while all of these outcomes improve significantly faster for the other group(s) in the same period.
Re:Grokipedia by xAI has just launched with 885,279 articles
by a0123 on Tuesday October 28, 2025 @05:08PM
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No you can't.
You also don't seem to understand "apologetics"?
Re:Grokipedia by xAI has just launched with 885,279 articles
by croes on Wednesday October 29, 2025 @12:23AM
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So by your logic the people of the german democratic republic weren’t oppressed because they got free education and proper wages. I think the citizens saw that differently.
Re:Grokipedia by xAI has just launched with 885,279 articles
by cozzyd on Tuesday October 28, 2025 @09:45AM
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Apologetics has a well-defined meaning. In this case, it's a bad faith deluge of out-of-context non-sequiturs posing as a coherent argument in order to defend something deplorable.