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Re:Valetudo: Cloud replacement for vacuum robots enabling lo... by deepscanner on Monday October 27, 2025 @03:45AM (#45718333)
Let the guy speak his mind, I am extremely thankful for his post.
Re:Valetudo: Cloud replacement for vacuum robots enabling lo... by brazukadev on Monday October 27, 2025 @04:56AM (#45718701)
I guess you all were talking all weekend about this post in your own little group of harassers, right? Maybe even some theories about me, for standing against this mob attack?

Seriously, you guys need to move on. This is next level harassment. It's insane that you guys think it's ok to astroturf here. This forum wasn't created yesterday.

Re:Valetudo: Cloud replacement for vacuum robots enabling lo... by Azelphur on Monday October 27, 2025 @04:27PM (#45725866)
1. Sure, people have been talking about it. The Discord server has 87 members now, the overwhelming majority feel they have been mistreated in some way by Hypfer. Myself included. It's unsurprising that people in that position would talk about this post.

2. You got one mention, Raptor told me you had replied. The groups open, you can take a look and then leave if you want. Nobody is making up theories about you.

3. It's not a "mob attack". Most of the people here were treated badly, which is what drove them to make these comments. The effect cannot precede the cause, that makes no sense. By the same reason, it is also not harassment. Posting about being being treated badly by someone is not harassment or an attack. If you don't want to be known for treating people badly, the solution is to not treat people badly.

4. To my knowledge, deepscanner isn't in the discord. I have no idea who they are.

5. On astroturfing, someone accused me of brigading when this came up on Reddit and I'll say the same thing here as I did there - I don't know most of these people, I didn't tell anyone to come here. I found out about this thread yesterday, and made my first comment at 16:58 on the 26th. Most of the discussion on this thread happened before my comment and before I was even aware of this thread. Again, the effect cannot precede the cause. Nobody on the discord told anyone to post either. However, there is plenty of evidence of Hypfer brigading, you only need to read the dust announce where he writes "Speak up. In your own words. With your own thoughts. Say something." in response to the subreddit creation. This message was read by 9,790 people. This is a super clear violation of reddits brigading rules.

I notice however, that you say "I never heard about valetudo before", but you also mentioned "We don't need you to save us from the creator of this software". I have mentioned in posts on other platforms that I primarily post my experience to protect / warn unsuspecting people about the Valetudo community, but, I said nothing to that effect in my comments here. The only way you'd have been prompted to write that, is if you'd read my posts on other platforms, yet you claim to have never heard of Valetudo ... whoopsie.