It's really pretty incredible - that people are putting up with Apple's "keep-away" is evidence of just how unbelievably far ahead they are in hardware.

Or it could be a symbol of an unhealthy emotional attachment to Apple, that customers perceive to be symbiotic but business-wise is wholly parasitic.

Like I said, Apple could be a real player... if they had any incentive to compete.

> Or it could be a symbol of an unhealthy emotional attachment to Apple

Pretty hard to make that argument about people who explicitly want to get rid of Apple’s OS from their hardware.

Not really. Apple hardware is great, but MacOS sucks big time (compared to Linux).

And do you think it makes sense to argue that someone who says “macOS sucks big time” but likes their hardware has an “unhealthy emotional attachment to Apple”? If anything, it seems to show a pragmatic relationship (that whatever you like/need from each).

If someone likes their partner's body, but despises their personality and the way they treat them, I would call that an unhealthy emotional attachment, not a pragmatic relationship.

It's almost never pragmatic to assume that your own suffering will necessarily yield a better outcome. Maybe your smoking hot partner eventually becomes a better person, but is it worth investing 10 years of mental anguish for the chance of getting there? A real pragmatist starts dating again, which forces their partner to stop taking themselves for granted. If Apple wasn't a literal monopoly, their customers could be holding them over a barrel and forcing their software products to compete naturally.

macOS sucks because their customers have an unhealthy emotional attachment to Apple. Americans forfeit their opportunity to regulate Apple into real competition, and now we are paying the price with top-down app censorship, UI disaster updates and bugfixes that add more bugs than fixes.

> If someone likes their partner's body, but despises their personality and the way they treat them

Then they have to take the whole package or nothing at all. You can’t swap your partner’s brain. But you can change your OS on your computer. These things are not comparable.

> macOS sucks because their customers have an unhealthy emotional attachment to Apple.

No, macOS (currently) sucks because Apple is doing a bad job. Their customers’ relationship to the company is orthogonal to the OS’ quality.

Nope, as a former macOS user myself I can assure you it's quite trivial.

I don't think that the people who want to buy a Mac to run Asahi Linux have (an unhealthy) emotional attachment to Apple, they wouldn't run Linux on a MacBook otherwise.

(I love macOS, though I also have a ThinkPad with NixOS.)

I recently spent around $6k in a new 14in MacBook Pro with 128gb unified ram and 4tb HD. To replace my old Linux running 2012 MacBook pro.

I searched throughly for something as close to that MBP hw conf but with Linux compatibility. There's just no hardware equivalent to what the Macbookpro, including the build quality.

So I de idea to go for the MBP and install vmware + Linux. It's an amazing piece of hardware.

I work as a contractor these days. I find the teams with top spec macbooks have terribly bloated code bases, because they don't notice. Pulling into the project with my laptop with 8gbs of ram instantly recognizes the bloat. I point out the things they are doing wrong, and they typically know, but haven't cared to fix the issues. They end up wasting a mountain of money in production and ironically become very cost sensitive about hours worked instead.