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Re:Eric Schmidt: Google Hasn’t Submitted A Native Google Map... by epo on Tuesday September 25, 2012 @04:37AM (#4569286)
Why would Google help Apple out? Lack of decent iOS maps doesn't disadvantage Google or Android in any way.
Re:Eric Schmidt: Google Hasn’t Submitted A Native Google Map... by yen223 on Tuesday September 25, 2012 @05:09AM (#4569370)
Because Google actually wants iOS users to use Google Maps.
Re:Eric Schmidt: Google Hasn’t Submitted A Native Google Map... by epo on Tuesday September 25, 2012 @05:24AM (#4569414)
Really? I'd have thought Google wants iOS users to use Android.
Re:Eric Schmidt: Google Hasn’t Submitted A Native Google Map... by arrrg on Tuesday September 25, 2012 @05:56AM (#4569516)
Haha!

No. Well, yes. But it’s more complicated. Google wants eyeballs, so ignoring a big platform like iOS completely is not really an option. I don’t think you understand the business Google is in.

Re:Eric Schmidt: Google Hasn’t Submitted A Native Google Map... by patrickaljord on Tuesday September 25, 2012 @06:06AM (#4569543)
I don't think you understand where Google business is going. See, even with 60% of market share with Android, Google still makes less money in a whole year with Android ads than Samsung does in a quarter. Mobile ads just don't pay that much. It's clear to Google that even if they get 80% of market share (which is very unlikely), they'll still make less money on mobile ads in a year than Samsung does in a quarter by selling phones, not to mention Apple.

I think Google is going to go full on with Motorola and start selling their own phones. If they can manage to grab 10 or 20% of market share, they'll make way more money than with mobile ads now. And with HTC and Samsung eyeing on Windows8, Google may be forced to ship its own phones anyway. That's just my opinion obviously but it's easy to see they're taking Motorola very seriously (and is not just a patent deal) given that they put one of their best guy in charge.

Re:Eric Schmidt: Google Hasn’t Submitted A Native Google Map... by arrrg on Tuesday September 25, 2012 @07:54AM (#4569824)
No, they clearly won’t. They know what they can and cannot do.
Re:Eric Schmidt: Google Hasn’t Submitted A Native Google Map... by patrickaljord on Tuesday September 25, 2012 @08:52AM (#4570049)
And how do you know that? We'll see how it turns out but at this point you can't predict they won't.
Re:Eric Schmidt: Google Hasn’t Submitted A Native Google Map... by taligent on Tuesday September 25, 2012 @05:10AM (#4569374)
Why do you think Google even has Maps ? Advertising.

iOS users greatly outnumber Android in mobile internet use hence it would be stupid of Google to leave money on the table and not build an app.

Re:Eric Schmidt: Google Hasn’t Submitted A Native Google Map... by __alexs on Tuesday September 25, 2012 @05:43AM (#4569472)
In some locales, sure, but not in general.

Worldwide: Android beats iOS slightly. http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile_os-ww-monthly-201108-20120...

Europe: iOS beats Android slightly. http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile_os-eu-monthly-201108-20120...

North America: iOS beats Android by 10% http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile_os-na-monthly-201108-20120...

South America: Android beats iOS by 28% http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile_os-sa-monthly-201108-20120...

Asia: Android beats iOS by 10% http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile_os-as-monthly-201108-20120...

Re:Eric Schmidt: Google Hasn’t Submitted A Native Google Map... by lookingsideways on Tuesday September 25, 2012 @05:49AM (#4569496)
Do many of the major sites actually use StatCounter though?

Akamai's stats show a very different story - http://blog.cloudfour.com/explaining-the-ios-and-android-mob...

Re:Eric Schmidt: Google Hasn’t Submitted A Native Google Map... by __alexs on Tuesday September 25, 2012 @06:00AM (#4569523)
> "most of the Web sites sampled for the Akamai IO Beta are focused on a U.S. audience."

Also if you aren't a "major site" how much do you care that most their mobile users are on iOS? Maybe that means you should be pushing Android compatibility even harder if Android users are more willing to try out smaller brands?

The lesson here is not that iOS rules and Android drools or any other nonsense. It's that you should know your market.

Re:Eric Schmidt: Google Hasn’t Submitted A Native Google Map... by BitMastro on Tuesday September 25, 2012 @05:58AM (#4569520)
Other stats from Akamai show yet another story http://www.akamai.com/html/io/io_dataset.html#stat=mobile_br... The usage is similar, but (my guess) Android users prefer to use a notebook at home rather than a cellphone
Re:Eric Schmidt: Google Hasn’t Submitted A Native Google Map... by tehayj on Tuesday September 25, 2012 @06:16AM (#4569571)
most android people i know use a third party browser that pretends to be a desktop browser to avoid those crappy mobile sites.
Re:Eric Schmidt: Google Hasn’t Submitted A Native Google Map... by bornhuetter on Tuesday September 25, 2012 @05:16AM (#4569392)
> iOS users greatly outnumber Android in mobile internet

Source? I hate to be the one to ask for sources, but this sounds completely wrong.

Re:Eric Schmidt: Google Hasn’t Submitted A Native Google Map... by lookingsideways on Tuesday September 25, 2012 @05:38AM (#4569458)
http://www.netmarketshare.com

Mobile browser share

    Safari:  66.2%
    Android: 19.4%
Mobile OS Share:

    iOS:     65.7%
    Android: 20.2%
Re:Eric Schmidt: Google Hasn’t Submitted A Native Google Map... by patrickaljord on Tuesday September 25, 2012 @05:59AM (#4569522)
http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile_os-ww-monthly-201108-20120...

Android: 28% iOS: 24%

It's easy to find web brpwser stats that validate your opinion.

Re:Eric Schmidt: Google Hasn’t Submitted A Native Google Map... by epo on Tuesday September 25, 2012 @05:21AM (#4569411)
I'd guess embarrassing Apple counts for more than advertising revenue at the moment. Also a Google maps app with adverts is going to make the (inevitable) improved ad-free Apple maps app look better and better.