Re:Tesla reveals Supercharger network, Free Fill Ups
by sliverstorm on Tuesday September 25, 2012 @01:46AM
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Tack on to that the increased capacity electric vehicles are going to have to have, as well as the increased electricity prices I am expecting when ten million Americans are charging their cars.
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Re:Tesla reveals Supercharger network, Free Fill Ups
by maxerickson on Tuesday September 25, 2012 @07:41AM
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Current U.S. energy use is ~ 10 billion kw-h per day.
1 billion kw-h / day more is a nice big tick on that, but I'm not sure it would drive prices a whole lot.
Re:Tesla reveals Supercharger network, Free Fill Ups
by soperj on Tuesday September 25, 2012 @12:56PM
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Yah, but those people won't be using refined gasoline. It uses alot of electricity just to refine a gallon of gas.
Re:Tesla reveals Supercharger network, Free Fill Ups
by sliverstorm on Tuesday September 25, 2012 @03:04PM
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According to this web page:
http://www.consumerenergyreport.com/2012/03/21/what-makes-up...
It takes about $0.20 to refine a gallon of gas, so ~2kWh/gal. Except, It obviously actually takes less electricity than that, because there are other costs to refining. Not a bad investment in energy terms, when a gallon of gasoline contains ~36.6kWh worth of energy.
Re:Tesla reveals Supercharger network, Free Fill Ups
by soperj on Thursday September 27, 2012 @06:53PM
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Where on that page did you get the 20 cents? Didn't see that anywhere.
From this
http://gatewayev.org/how-much-electricity-is-used-refine-a-g...
It's more like 6kWh/gallon.
Re:Tesla reveals Supercharger network, Free Fill Ups
by jblow on Tuesday September 25, 2012 @07:55PM
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Don't forget the cost in electricity of finding deposits, mining them, transporting the pre-refined gas, transporting the post-refined gas, and lobbying Congress.
Re:Tesla reveals Supercharger network, Free Fill Ups
by chris_mahan on Tuesday September 25, 2012 @11:35PM
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I just imagined the Congressional Cattle Prod, wrapped in $100 bills.
Re:Tesla reveals Supercharger network, Free Fill Ups
by ZoFreX on Tuesday September 25, 2012 @10:57AM
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Surely increased demand for a resource should, long-term, drive the price down and not up?
Re:Tesla reveals Supercharger network, Free Fill Ups
by sliverstorm on Tuesday September 25, 2012 @12:32PM
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Potentially, if there are improvements in infrastructure to be made that reduce cost. But it is hardly implicit that increased demand will lower the price- just look at oil.
Re:Tesla reveals Supercharger network, Free Fill Ups
by indiecore on Tuesday September 25, 2012 @11:08AM
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The stations generate more power (via solar) than the cars use while charging. There is a net REDUCTION in energy use if you charge solely from these stations and I'd imagine that part of the business model is selling the excess energy back to the power companies. I'd bet that getting certified for this sort of thing is also a heck of a lot easier than getting certified to build a solar farm. Pretty smart move I think.