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Re:Apple alerts exploit developer that his iPhone was target... by duxup on Tuesday October 21, 2025 @12:02PM (#45657441)
>Gibson, who until recently built surveillance technologies for Western government hacking tools maker Trenchant, may be the first documented case of someone who builds exploits and spyware being themselves targeted with spyware.

Leopards ate my face moment?

They're not developing these tools to NOT use them...

Re:Apple alerts exploit developer that his iPhone was target... by alephnerd on Tuesday October 21, 2025 @12:27PM (#45657769)
Based on the article, it sounds like a bit of a "he said - she said" article after Gibson was terminated at Trenchant/L3Harris.
Re:Apple alerts exploit developer that his iPhone was target... by altairprime on Tuesday October 21, 2025 @12:35PM (#45657862)
To clarify with the final paragraphs of context, “He said, Corp said, 3 of 3 coworkers asked corroborated what He said”.
Re:Apple alerts exploit developer that his iPhone was target... by duxup on Tuesday October 21, 2025 @12:28PM (#45657786)
I'm not entirely sure how that applies to my post.
Re:Apple alerts exploit developer that his iPhone was target... by alephnerd on Tuesday October 21, 2025 @12:32PM (#45657829)
What I mean is:

1. Most of us in this segment of the industry recognize the risks

2. He is absolutely not the first person targeted by this

3. This article sounds like it's part of a wrongful termination suit by Gibson based on the context provided

Re:Apple alerts exploit developer that his iPhone was target... by duxup on Tuesday October 21, 2025 @12:37PM (#45657891)
Is there a lawsuit?
Re:Apple alerts exploit developer that his iPhone was target... by alephnerd on Tuesday October 21, 2025 @12:40PM (#45657937)
Not sure, but the phrasing around this article and the entire second half of it definitely sounds like similar articles I've seen during these kinds of suits.
Re:Apple alerts exploit developer that his iPhone was target... by tptacek on Tuesday October 21, 2025 @01:08PM (#45658335)
For at least 2 decades now exploit developers have been rather infamously prime targets for spyware, so whoever wrote this piece isn't read in at all to the industry.
Re:Apple alerts exploit developer that his iPhone was target... by jsonBorn on Tuesday October 21, 2025 @03:06PM (#45660187)
"..if you are a state or federal enforcement authority, and you have suspicion of any criminal activity of `Jay Gibson', be encouraged to immediately contact: Lorenzo Franceschi-Bicchierai securely on Signal at +1 917 257 1382, or via Telegram, Keybase and Wire @lorenzofb, or by email.
Re:Apple alerts exploit developer that his iPhone was target... by ghostly_s on Tuesday October 21, 2025 @02:22PM (#45659558)
Oddly it seems to echo the feelings of the spyware developer in question.
Re:Apple alerts exploit developer that his iPhone was target... by tptacek on Tuesday October 21, 2025 @03:04PM (#45660154)
I agree that developer, as quoted, has an odd vibe.
Re:Apple alerts exploit developer that his iPhone was target... by runjake on Tuesday October 21, 2025 @01:59PM (#45659185)
"Leopards ate my face" reference for others not in the know: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/leopards-eating-peoples-faces...
Re:Apple alerts exploit developer that his iPhone was target... by throw0101c on Tuesday October 21, 2025 @02:03PM (#45659271)
The original tweet just had its tenth anniversary (2015-10-16):

> 'I never thought leopards would eat MY face,' sobs woman who voted for the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party.

* https://twitter.com/Cavalorn/status/654934442549620736

Re:Apple alerts exploit developer that his iPhone was target... by CaptainOfCoit on Tuesday October 21, 2025 @02:11PM (#45659404)
What happened with "reap what one sows", did it go out of fashion? Seems the same.
Re:Apple alerts exploit developer that his iPhone was target... by svnt on Tuesday October 21, 2025 @02:19PM (#45659514)
Leopards ate my face is only negative, and has been more political, typically someone voting to weaponize the government against their peer-level enemies but hypocritically, only to later realize they are not a party to the benefits, only the consequences.

It is really about a perceptual flaw in pre-fascist democratic behavior: people believing themselves to be a part of the protected class because they voted for it.

It seems to apply here because someone profiting from the creation of tools used on others by people with money/power has them used on him by the government.

tldr; it is a subset of you reap what you sow, with more specificity and punch

Re:Apple alerts exploit developer that his iPhone was target... by CaptainOfCoit on Tuesday October 21, 2025 @08:14PM (#45663466)
You know what? Thank you for explaining that!
Re:Apple alerts exploit developer that his iPhone was target... by tgv on Tuesday October 21, 2025 @02:18PM (#45659504)
Too biblical and old-fashioned, probably. I would say that at least half the people who've used "leopards ate my face" don't even know the meaning of reap. The simplicity and visual character of the modern expression make it memier.
Re:Apple alerts exploit developer that his iPhone was target... by ta1243 on Wednesday October 22, 2025 @03:17AM (#45665807)
That gives positive outcomes.

People vote for "leopards eating face" party because they want leopards to eat other peoples faces. You're relying on that party to do something they didn't say (it's not "leopards eat everyone else's face but not yours" party)

If you vote for a party to build a monument, then they build a monument, that's reaping what you sow.