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Re:AWS Multiple Services Down in us-east-1 by umeshunni on Monday October 20, 2025 @11:29AM (#45645064)
What if the electricity grid depends on some AWS service?
Re:AWS Multiple Services Down in us-east-1 by quaintdev on Monday October 20, 2025 @11:50AM (#45645284)
That would be circular dependency.
Re:AWS Multiple Services Down in us-east-1 by croes on Monday October 20, 2025 @01:15PM (#45646443)
And?
Re:AWS Multiple Services Down in us-east-1 by AnIrishDuck on Monday October 20, 2025 @11:47PM (#45652278)
The grid actually already has a fair number of (non-software) circular dependencies. This is why they have black start [1] procedures and run drills of those procedures. Or should, at least; there have been high profile outages recently that have exposed holes in these plans [2].

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_start 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Iberian_Peninsula_blackou...

Re:AWS Multiple Services Down in us-east-1 by thatguy0900 on Monday October 20, 2025 @11:56AM (#45645363)
It doesn't though? Weird what if
Re:AWS Multiple Services Down in us-east-1 by jacquesm on Monday October 20, 2025 @12:14PM (#45645582)
You'd be surprised. See. GP asks a very interesting question. And some grid infra indeed relies on AWS, definitely not all of it but there are some aspects of it that are hosted by AWS.
Re:AWS Multiple Services Down in us-east-1 by croes on Monday October 20, 2025 @01:15PM (#45646439)
do you know for sure? And if not yet, you can bet someone will propose it in the future. So not a weird what if at all
Re:AWS Multiple Services Down in us-east-1 by jacquesm on Monday October 20, 2025 @01:57PM (#45646992)
This is already happening. I have looked at quite a few companies in the energy space this year, two of them had AWS as a critical dependency in their primary business processes and that could definitely have an impact on the grid. To their defense: AWS presumably tests their fall-back options (generators) with some regularity. But this isn't a farfetched idea at all.
Re:AWS Multiple Services Down in us-east-1 by Sl1mb0 on Monday October 20, 2025 @11:18PM (#45652078)
I worked for an energy tech startup that did consulting for big utility companies. It absolutely does.