Not at all snarky because I have no idea what the real answer is here, but although this sounds pretty good, it strikes me how in conflict this would be with most peoples' ideals if we tried any sort of system to scale this to larger populations (like a city).

Perhaps we want privacy-but-not-anonymity. Or perhaps society doesn't scale easily.

The real answer is to rebuild the high trust society by relentlessly removing the low trust elements, the same way the high trust society was created to begin with.

That isn't a real answer. There is no effective way to remove the low-trust elements who physically operate in jurisdictions with no effective law enforcement. Like what are we going to do, fire cruise missiles at random Internet cafes in Nigeria and Cambodia?

There are alternatives such as cutting the internet cable or requiring insurance on all cross jurisdictional transactions.

Those are not alternatives. VPNs and botnets already exist. We have minimal practical ability to control Internet traffic or transactions between most foreign countries. All it takes is a single compromised device in the USA for the scam traffic to get through.

There are very few transatlantic cables that carry all of the internet. It would be very easy to cut them. VPNs don't make any difference.

Come on, be serious. No one is going to cut any transatlantic cables just to prevent scams. VPNs make a huge difference: as long as you can get a route out somewhere then you can use a VPN (possibly to a compromised host) to make your traffic appear to be coming from another source.

You can't VPN on a non existent path. Or bomb them. All it takes is an actual desire to stop scammers.

We are heading for a period of a not-fully-connected internet. Already people are cutting off China and Russia from their sites because their bot traffic is either overwhelming or malignant.

Afghanistan just cut all the fibers.

I don't know if I'd say that every mistake you've ever made being remembered forever is something to be "gained".

Just to be perfectly clear, "every mistake you've ever made being remembered" is already in place. The only difference is that it is used to profile you and sell you more stuff as opposed building a working community, where 'bad members' can be identified and shamed.

Nah. You're taking too literally something that should only be figurative. Internet advertisers don't remember when you cut someone off in traffic by mistake, or don't wave back one morning when you're feeling grumpy, or you have a disagreement with a customer regarding when work was considered finished.

You are living in the past. I do not mean it in pejorative sense. People are wholesale dumping their entire lives into various llms. Various advertising profiles know much more than you cutting off someone in traffic. More than that, they can infer a lot more. And if they don't, they will be replaced by companies that do..

>People are wholesale dumping their entire lives into various llms.

Not to be dismissive, but that's on them. You can control what you tell the bartender. You can't control what people whisper about you behind your back.

>Various advertising profiles know much more than you cutting off someone in traffic.

They "know" different things. Also, oh no! You mean to tell me advertisers are tracking me to optimize which ads get blocked by uBO? Woe is me! What ever shall I do? Try opting out of having a bad reputation in a small village.

It is.. not a bad argument, but again, a little dated.

<< You can control what you tell the bartender.

Except you are not telling this to a bartender. Sometimes you don't even tell it at all. Can you control what your bank parses this way? Can you control what your insurance throws there? Can you control what data brokers have on you ( and plop there )? I may have given you a wrong impression that individual plop means 1 to 1 impact. It does not.

And that is before I get to the part that a bartender was unlikely to spread your personal stuff in any meaningful way.

<< They "know" different things.

Chuckles. See above. If you think there is no 'fusion' going on, I don't think we should continue this conversation further.

<< ads get blocked by uBO

Man.. I use ubo and noscript, but you have to not want to know to live under the impression that there is no concerted effort to, ideally, remove user's ability to run what they choose to run.

<< Try opting out of having a bad reputation in a small village.

You either move or not be a bad actor to have that kind of reputation.