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Re:EVs are depreciating much faster than gas-powered cars by theothertimcook on Friday October 17, 2025 @03:53PM (#45621261)
They are definitely degrading.

Complex driver aid/“safety” systems, outrageously complicated “infotainment” systems that are also used to interact with system functions, sealed/un-serviceable transmissions, exhaust gas filtration and recirculating systems, these are all additional points of failure that represent a degradation on modern ICE cars.

These cars won’t be around 20 years after manufacture in the same way Toyota Camry and Corolla are.

Re:EVs are depreciating much faster than gas-powered cars by Consultant32452 on Friday October 17, 2025 @05:07PM (#45622084)
I recently bought a fancy muscle car with all that crap integrated into the infotainment system. I explained to the sales guy that I WANTED to keep this car for the rest of my life but was concerned that wouldn't be possible. In 10 years it may literally be impossible to find a phone that will connect via the USB/bluetooth to the infotainment system. We may all be using something completely different. Not to mention, no one will be manufacturing replacements for that infotainment system if it ever craps out.

You can go buy a 50 year old muscle car and upgrade the radio to something kind of modern. But that won't be possible with my car 50 years from now. It's too integrated.

The sales guy had clearly never considered this issue before.

Re:EVs are depreciating much faster than gas-powered cars by jacobgkau on Friday October 17, 2025 @07:06PM (#45623204)
It seems like he didn't need to consider it, since you bought it anyway.
Re:EVs are depreciating much faster than gas-powered cars by jlarocco on Friday October 17, 2025 @07:18PM (#45623292)
I wonder how long it will be before the first EVs get bricked because the manufacturer doesn't want to ship software updates to the old hardware any more.

If it can happen to a $1500 phone or a $5k computer, I'm sure it will happen to a $20k car eventually.

Re:EVs are depreciating much faster than gas-powered cars by theothertimcook on Saturday October 18, 2025 @02:45AM (#45625429)
I think it’s already happened with some teslas banned from charging stations and being gimped after sale for whatever reason.

Apparently a bunch of jeeps got bricked by a pop software update.

Re:EVs are depreciating much faster than gas-powered cars by rlpb on Friday October 17, 2025 @10:01PM (#45624254)
> The sales guy had clearly never considered this issue before.

This seems to happen far too often. I've come to the conclusion that salespeople pretend this is the case on purpose, since it benefits them for you to believe that you're the exception.

Re:EVs are depreciating much faster than gas-powered cars by gautamcgoel on Saturday October 18, 2025 @12:59AM (#45625036)
Which car + how do you like it?
Re:EVs are depreciating much faster than gas-powered cars by Consultant32452 on Saturday October 18, 2025 @01:37AM (#45625193)
2022 challenger srt hellcat redeye. I absolutely love it.
Re:EVs are depreciating much faster than gas-powered cars by theothertimcook on Saturday October 18, 2025 @02:41AM (#45625417)
Depending on how mainstream and popular it is, china may come to the rescue. They’ve made some really cool drop in replacements for oem systems.
Re:EVs are depreciating much faster than gas-powered cars by jlarocco on Friday October 17, 2025 @07:16PM (#45623277)
Those complaints are really orthogonal to the EV vs ICE debate, though.

Somebody could claim driver aids and infotainment EVs are "degrading" in EVs in the exact same way - in fact they're even more integrated in EVs.

And although EVs don't have the same transmissions and exhaust gas systems, they have their own unique complexities and points of failure, like batteries and regenerative braking systems.

Re:EVs are depreciating much faster than gas-powered cars by theothertimcook on Saturday October 18, 2025 @02:39AM (#45625404)
100% all of the advantages of bulletproof electronic motor are smashed by reliance on finicky little software systems