Re:Andrej Karpathy – AGI is still a decade away
by ecocentrik on Friday October 17, 2025 @02:27PM
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LLMs are close enough to pass the Turing Test. That was a huge milestone. They are capable of abstract reasoning and can perform many tasks very well but they aren't AGI. They can't teach themselves to play chess at the level of a dedicated chess engine or fly an airplane using the same model they use to copypasta a React UI. They can only fool non-proficient humans into believing that they might be capable of doing those things.
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Re:Andrej Karpathy – AGI is still a decade away
by password54321 on Friday October 17, 2025 @03:13PM
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Turing Test was a thought experiment not a real benchmark for intelligence. If you read the paper the idea originated from it is largely philosophical.
As for abstract reasoning, if you look at ARC-2 it is barely capable though at least some progress has been made with the ARC-1 benchmark.
Re:Andrej Karpathy – AGI is still a decade away
by ecocentrik on Saturday October 18, 2025 @07:10AM
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I wasn't claiming the Turing Test was a benchmark for intelligence but the ability to fool a human into thinking a machine is intelligent in conversation is still a significant milestone. I should have said "some abstract reasoning". ARC-2 looks promising.
Re:Andrej Karpathy – AGI is still a decade away
by password54321 on Saturday October 18, 2025 @09:15AM
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>I wasn't claiming the Turing Test was a benchmark for intelligence but the ability to fool a human into thinking a machine is intelligent in conversation is still a significant milestone.
The Turing Test is whether it can fool a human into thinking it is talking to another human not an intelligent machine. And ironically this is becoming less true over time as people become more used to spotting the tendencies LLMs have with writing such as its frequent use of dashes or "it's not just X it is Y" type of statements.