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Re:4Chan Lawyer publishes Ofcom correspondence. Irony is ove... by ivan_gammel on Friday October 17, 2025 @01:00PM (#45619037)
Look at this page: https://www.4chan.org/advertise

It explicitly says that 7% of their users are coming from UK. If UK blocks them, they will loose noticeable part of advertising revenue. If there was no money at stake, they could just ignore Ofcom and sleep well. But they appear to be very agitated about the fact that they may loose their second biggest market.

Honestly, I don’t understand anyone on 4chan side here: they are de facto in UK jurisdiction because they earn money from that user base, so either they comply or they leave. All of this freedom-of-speech and US lawsuit hype is just a distraction circus.

Re:4Chan Lawyer publishes Ofcom correspondence. Irony is ove... by FabCH on Friday October 17, 2025 @01:11PM (#45619167)
Note, they don’t earn money from users. They earn money from advertisers.

This is important because if it was advertisers, it would be much easier for UK to have actual power over them, since the UK business actually would be under UK jurisdiction.

Re:4Chan Lawyer publishes Ofcom correspondence. Irony is ove... by mikkupikku on Friday October 17, 2025 @02:24PM (#45620123)
4chan gets money by selling (with crypto) "passes" to their users. These passes allow users to post using VPNs. Being banned in the UK will increase demand for these passes, probably increasing 4chan's revenue over all.
Re:4Chan Lawyer publishes Ofcom correspondence. Irony is ove... by fer on Friday October 17, 2025 @03:22PM (#45620899)
You can buy passes with a regular credit card
Re:4Chan Lawyer publishes Ofcom correspondence. Irony is ove... by mikkupikku on Friday October 17, 2025 @03:50PM (#45621237)
Not these days. If you go through the process of buying one, crypto will be the only option given.
Re:4Chan Lawyer publishes Ofcom correspondence. Irony is ove... by ivan_gammel on Friday October 17, 2025 @01:30PM (#45619401)
>Note, they don’t earn money from users. They earn money from advertisers.

It doesn’t matter. They loose the audience - they loose advertising revenue. The only difference is that UK cannot seize the money to collect the fine (the fine now is the price of the return ticket), but the fine wasn’t big anyway and complete loss of the market has bigger economic consequences. UK doesn’t have power over US corporation, but they have power over their distribution channel and they have full sovereign right to exercise that power.

Re:4Chan Lawyer publishes Ofcom correspondence. Irony is ove... by FabCH on Friday October 17, 2025 @01:50PM (#45619672)
That assumes UK deploys technical measures to prevent their own citizens from accessing the website, which costs more political capital than fining a corporation. Or makes it illegal to access the site, which is even more unpopular.

The difference is significant.

Re:4Chan Lawyer publishes Ofcom correspondence. Irony is ove... by ivan_gammel on Friday October 17, 2025 @02:20PM (#45620072)
Realistically, UK is a big market for 4chan, but is 4chan big enough for UK? What share of its 70M+ population will flip their vote because of this specific case? How many people will just switch to Reddit or something else and won’t even connect that block to any political party?
Re:4Chan Lawyer publishes Ofcom correspondence. Irony is ove... by hunterpayne on Friday October 17, 2025 @08:41PM (#45623791)
No, it really isn't. Plus the free advertising this gets them will be worth more than any market other than the US.
Re:4Chan Lawyer publishes Ofcom correspondence. Irony is ove... by ivan_gammel on Saturday October 18, 2025 @12:20PM (#45628461)
If they hope that they will get more audience from elsewhere because of this, it certainly explains all the circus.
Re:4Chan Lawyer publishes Ofcom correspondence. Irony is ove... by array_key_first on Friday October 17, 2025 @01:08PM (#45619142)
Comply, leave, or fight the law if you think it's stupid.

Lots of laws are stupid. If you think they're stupid, you're allowed to try to fight them.

Re:4Chan Lawyer publishes Ofcom correspondence. Irony is ove... by ivan_gammel on Friday October 17, 2025 @01:26PM (#45619351)
Yes, sure, they can fight the law - in UK. It’s not what they are doing.
Re:4Chan Lawyer publishes Ofcom correspondence. Irony is ove... by vintermann on Friday October 17, 2025 @02:52PM (#45620494)
If you think foreign laws directly targeting you are stupid, not only do you have few ways of fighting them, trying to fight them might often be criminalized as well ("foreign interference" laws etc.)
Re:4Chan Lawyer publishes Ofcom correspondence. Irony is ove... by lazide on Friday October 17, 2025 @01:11PM (#45619168)
Well, you’re allowed to try to fight them in some places, some of the time - with often severe consequences if you don’t win.
Re:4Chan Lawyer publishes Ofcom correspondence. Irony is ove... by redml on Saturday October 18, 2025 @04:42AM (#45625906)
if the uk wants to be a authoritarian state then do it properly and not this grey area of "you're passively sending packets so you're fined a billion dollars so you block us"

it's worse than china's firewall

Re:4Chan Lawyer publishes Ofcom correspondence. Irony is ove... by Levitz on Saturday October 18, 2025 @08:18AM (#45626756)
You seem to be under the false impression that 4chan makes money, as in, is profitable. It's very much not. Nor does advertising, much less UK advertising, constitute an important influx of money into the "business".
Re:4Chan Lawyer publishes Ofcom correspondence. Irony is ove... by ivan_gammel on Saturday October 18, 2025 @12:18PM (#45628451)
A rather strange conclusion from my words. I do not assume it’s profitable, but it’s pretty logical that a for-profit organization running a service that is based on user engagement will have its revenue from the sources linked to the audience, be it advertising, subscriptions or donations. If you cut a visible slice of that audience, it’s going to impact the revenue. It’s still not profitable, 10 years after acquisition? May the investors be blessed for their charitable attitude, but it doesn’t change anything.
Re:4Chan Lawyer publishes Ofcom correspondence. Irony is ove... by Levitz on Sunday October 19, 2025 @12:59PM (#45635753)
What makes you think it's a "for-profit organization"? Or that it has investors?
Re:4Chan Lawyer publishes Ofcom correspondence. Irony is ove... by ivan_gammel on Sunday October 19, 2025 @04:45PM (#45637805)
It does have investors according to sources cited by Wikipedia. Whether it’s non-profit or for-profit LLC and on what terms it was acquired doesn’t matter at all.