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Re:Ruby Core Takes Ownership of Rubygems and Bundler by white-moss on Friday October 17, 2025 @08:52AM (#45616177)
Really appreciate Matz stepping up to take on this difficult situation. As a Japanese developer, I’ve been worried about the direction things were going, so it’s reassuring to see this.
Re:Ruby Core Takes Ownership of Rubygems and Bundler by shevy-java on Friday October 17, 2025 @10:29AM (#45617204)
Stepping up how? It was always clear that Hiroshi Shibata didn't act solo without approval. I am not saying he knew the outcome before that, but WHEN was the decision made to take over gems + bundler? I have a slight suspicion that this may have been decided upon months ago already.

> As a Japanese developer, I’ve been worried about the direction things were going, so it’s reassuring to see this.

I am actually much more worried now. I don't live in the USA; I don't live in Japan. To me it seems as if Japan and the USA are totally over-dominating in the ruby ecosystem. While this is understandable that it is Japan (local community, I get it, this is different to english-speaking ones), I am absolutely upset that the USA has so much proxy-influence here. But I guess there is nothing that can be done. I guess in Python the USA also over-dominates. I just think this sucks really.

Re:Ruby Core Takes Ownership of Rubygems and Bundler by xg19837 on Friday October 17, 2025 @10:48AM (#45617407)
Yes. At least Ruby was always strongly Japanese though. In Python European and Asian developers are overtly exploited, with U.S. corporations and their employed stooges holding the reins of power.

I'm considering switching to Erlang, which was developed at a corporation from the start and appears to be drama and cancel free.

Re:Ruby Core Takes Ownership of Rubygems and Bundler by nxor on Friday October 17, 2025 @10:50AM (#45617443)
Or Europeans choose to work for US corporations. What am I missing? I know Europeans who only want to work for American companies.
Re:Ruby Core Takes Ownership of Rubygems and Bundler by JoshTriplett on Friday October 17, 2025 @11:46AM (#45618079)
American salaries are typically wildly higher, both on the low end and on the high end. It's often remote work. There are more jobs and more variety of jobs, on an absolute scale, than any particular locality. There may be more of a job ladder, and less stigma to wanting to climb it. There are some other cultural aspects as well.

I would love to see such options become available in Europe (insofar as additional options existing, not taking away the ones that already exist). But that would require some extremely successful European companies working to change it.

Re:Ruby Core Takes Ownership of Rubygems and Bundler by nxor on Friday October 17, 2025 @12:05PM (#45618303)
My comment was unclear. I am American. I think I am familiar with these differences. You seem to agree with me that in light of these aspects, referring then to American company employees as stooges is exaggerated. Regarding Asia of course it's a different topic, and I am unfamiliar with it. Obviously some American companies are bad but I just question the comment I responded to, that's all. And I don't understand "stigma to climbing it." Depending on the country, of course, but I didn't think there was stigma. Europeans compete for prestige like the rest of us. Don't they? Some do, some don't, of course.
Re:Ruby Core Takes Ownership of Rubygems and Bundler by busterarm on Friday October 17, 2025 @10:56AM (#45617524)
Different money and different attitudes. Trying to get paid more than your peers if you're appropriately skilled isn't social kryptonite here in the states.
Re:Ruby Core Takes Ownership of Rubygems and Bundler by linhns on Friday October 17, 2025 @02:14PM (#45619989)
Ericsson is drama free?
Re:Ruby Core Takes Ownership of Rubygems and Bundler by dudeinjapan on Friday October 17, 2025 @10:50AM (#45617448)
Shopify is pretty much dominating the Ruby ecosystem. It’s Canadian tho :)
Re:Ruby Core Takes Ownership of Rubygems and Bundler by dismalaf on Friday October 17, 2025 @10:42AM (#45617341)
> I am actually much more worried now

Why? Japanese culture is more conservative, less prone to knee jerk decisions, and Ruby is their biggest home grown programming language.

I'm also not American nor Japanese and I think this is the best possible outcome.

Re:Ruby Core Takes Ownership of Rubygems and Bundler by nxor on Friday October 17, 2025 @10:49AM (#45617423)
More people live in the US. What is overdominating Python?