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Re:How America got hooked on ultraprocessed foods by supportengineer on Thursday October 16, 2025 @01:55PM (#45608575)
This begs the question - is it reasonable for the consumer to put in a little work - reading labels and doing research outside of the grocery store?

I find that you do the research once, and then you know what to buy next time.

Re:How America got hooked on ultraprocessed foods by Scarblac on Thursday October 16, 2025 @03:24PM (#45609624)
Well, the supermarkets know know what the effect of their product placement is. If they change it, the customer buys different things, on average.

So, we can say it's reasonable for people to do some research and pick the yoghurt they consider best, but we know most people don't do that. And that supermarkets prefer to give the best spots to sugary yoghurts.

What's wrong with doing the research once for the average person and then regulating the supermarkets so they give those the eye level space? People can still make different choices if they want.

Re:How America got hooked on ultraprocessed foods by cma on Thursday October 16, 2025 @05:11PM (#45610706)
It could be the result is people buy more danishes and doughnuts from the bakery section for breakfast instead of now harder to find sweetened yoghurt.
Re:How America got hooked on ultraprocessed foods by maxerickson on Friday October 17, 2025 @08:45AM (#45616109)
Can we believe that consumers have any agency at all?

Like maybe the reason there are 200 varieties of single serve cups is that people like them.

Re:How America got hooked on ultraprocessed foods by jmathai on Thursday October 16, 2025 @03:22PM (#45609602)
The amount of work the consumer puts in is matched by food makers. You'll see the deceptive marketing on so many foods. "No sugar added" no longer means no added sweetening agent. It means that sugar was replaced by alternative sweeteners.

It's exhausting being a consumer these days.

Re:How America got hooked on ultraprocessed foods by positr0n on Friday October 17, 2025 @10:24AM (#45617155)
Are we still talking about yogurt? I do not find it difficult or have to put in any work to buy low sugar yogurt. I buy large amounts of full fat zero added sugar Greek yogurt and yogurt cups with 2g of added sugar and there are always multiple options clearly labeled on the shelf among all the other more sugary options.
Re:How America got hooked on ultraprocessed foods by jmathai on Friday October 17, 2025 @06:44PM (#45623006)
Sure. In the Kroger app when I search for “plain yogurt” the first result is yoplait vanilla flavored yogurt. I wish I could share the screenshot because it’s so ridiculous.
Re:How America got hooked on ultraprocessed foods by appreciatorBus on Thursday October 16, 2025 @03:30PM (#45609690)
If the issue was only about choices adults make about their own bodies and there were no externalities from those choices, then IMO it would of course be reasonable.
Re:How America got hooked on ultraprocessed foods by OJFord on Thursday October 16, 2025 @03:21PM (#45609584)
I think the point is more that the norm is sugary, and so it's necessary to do what you describe to find plain (not to say 'normal') yoghurt.