Re:How America got hooked on ultraprocessed foods
by nradov on Thursday October 16, 2025 @12:04PM
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Canned and frozen vegetables are also non-perishable. While some extremely poor people lack a working freezer or storage space, most consumers can easily use these options.
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Re:How America got hooked on ultraprocessed foods
by kulahan on Thursday October 16, 2025 @01:42PM
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Absolutely nothing I've seen anywhere justifies the idea that access to food is the problem. In most cultures, you don't need cooking classes because the food is ingrained into their culture, and recipes are passed down. Americans have a much weaker link to their heritage. You might know a few dishes, but in my experience, absolutely nobody knows how to cook.
By cook, I don't mean "can add one box of prepared goods to another box of prepared goods with a can of prepared goods on the side", I mean buying meat, veggies, fruit, and grains and cooking a dish from home, mostly from scratch.
edit: 13 million Americans are in food deserts. If the problem were that small, it'd be similar in size to people who are addicted to substances other than alcohol. This is affecting almost everyone. There MUST be another, bigger solution.
Re:How America got hooked on ultraprocessed foods
by hvb2 on Thursday October 16, 2025 @01:50PM
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As Gordon Ramsay put it: "Most people don't cook, they heat their food"
Re:How America got hooked on ultraprocessed foods
by t-writescode on Thursday October 16, 2025 @03:01PM
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Look up food deserts. Access is absolutely a problem.
Re:How America got hooked on ultraprocessed foods
by kulahan on Thursday October 16, 2025 @03:22PM
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I know - the extreme majority of them are in rural areas where you'd have to drive a couple hours to get to a grocery store. My MIL lives in one.
Guess how they get most food? All that super-cheap rural land.
Re:How America got hooked on ultraprocessed foods
by t-writescode on Thursday October 16, 2025 @03:33PM
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Are you suggesting that impoverished people with low income jobs and extreme hours should spend some of their missing time … farming?
Re:How America got hooked on ultraprocessed foods
by nradov on Thursday October 16, 2025 @03:54PM
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It's an observation, not a suggestion. That's literally how many low-income (not impoverished) people live in rural areas. They grow (and hunt) some food at home but not enough to be self-sufficient, and also have a regular job. Sometimes those jobs involve working long hours at peak times. This is a pretty normal lifestyle.
Re:How America got hooked on ultraprocessed foods
by kulahan on Thursday October 16, 2025 @05:48PM
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Yes. A garden is a healthy and productive way to spend your free time. If you have land, EVERYONE should be growing some food.
What are you suggesting they do instead? Scroll tiktok?
>and extreme hours
This is not the problem in rural communities.
Re:How America got hooked on ultraprocessed foods
by t-writescode on Thursday October 16, 2025 @06:07PM
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The most famously true thing about rural areas is that they’re all exactly the same and the people in them experience identical struggles.
Re:How America got hooked on ultraprocessed foods
by kulahan on Friday October 17, 2025 @03:24AM
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Ah, so that’s how you know they’re all short on time
Re:How America got hooked on ultraprocessed foods
by scotty79 on Friday October 17, 2025 @07:09AM
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I think canned food can already be considered ultra-processed if it contains any preservatives.
Re:How America got hooked on ultraprocessed foods
by bahama_mama on Friday October 17, 2025 @12:55PM
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Canned food such as canned tomatoes or canned pickles (if pickled with vinegar/salt/spices) is not considered ultra-processed food. It's considered processed food and can be considered as part of a healthy diet. Well, same could be said about UPF -- your health is unlikely to detoriate long term if you have 1 frozen meal per week. It's just quantity that matters and lack of moderation.