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Re:I almost got hacked by a 'job interview' by nubg on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @10:45AM (#45593450)
This article was written by an LLM.

I get that the author might be self-conscious about his English writing skills, but I would still much rather read the original prompt that the author put into ChatGPT, instead of the slop that came out.

The story - if true - is very interesting of course. Big bummer therefore that the author decided to sloppify it.

David, could you share as a response to this comment the original prompt used? Thanks!

Re:I almost got hacked by a 'job interview' by whatamidoingyo on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @10:51AM (#45593540)
It didn't seem LLM-written to me until "The Operation" section. After that... yeah, hi, ChatGPT. Still an interesting story, even if an LLM was used to finish it up, lol.
Re:I almost got hacked by a 'job interview' by LordDragonfang on Thursday October 16, 2025 @05:32PM (#45610943)
I think that's because up until "The Operation", it's basically just paraphrasing the input. "The Operation" is the exact point it finishes doing that and - no longer having as much guidance - decides to start spinning its wheels making up needless, ling winded slop.
Re:I almost got hacked by a 'job interview' by zamadatix on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @11:00AM (#45593670)
They spend a lot of time writing about AI, it's more likely we're just not of the same crowd as them and their target audience.
Re:I almost got hacked by a 'job interview' by DavidDodda on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @11:58AM (#45594554)
thanks for the feedback. just fyi - this went though 11 different versions before reaching this point.

so I am not able to share the full chat because i used Claude with google docs integration. but hears the google doc i started with

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1of_uWXw-CppnFtWoehIrr1ir...

this and the following prompt

``` 'help me turn this into a blog post.

keep things interesting, also make sure you take a look at the images in the google doc' ```

with this system prompt

``` % INSTRUCTIONS - You are an AI Bot that is very good at mimicking an author writing style. - Your goal is to write content with the tone that is described below. - Do not go outside the tone instructions below - Do not use hashtags or emojis

% Description of the authors tone:

1. *Pace*: The examples generally have a brisk pace, quickly moving from one idea to the next without lingering too long on any single point.

2. *Mood*: The mood is often energetic and motivational, with a sense of urgency and excitement.

3. *Tone*: The tone is assertive and confident, often with a hint of humor or sarcasm. There's a strong sense of opinion and authority.

4. *Style*: The style is conversational and informal, using direct language and often incorporating lists or bullet points for emphasis.

5. *Voice*: The voice is distinctive and personal, often reflecting the author's personality and perspective with a touch of wit.

6. *Formality*: The formality is low, with a casual and approachable manner that feels like a conversation with a friend.

7. *Imagery*: Imagery is used sparingly but effectively, often through vivid metaphors or analogies that create strong mental pictures.

8. *Diction*: The diction is straightforward and accessible, with a mix of colloquial expressions and precise language to convey ideas clearly.

9. *Syntax*: The syntax is varied, with a mix of short, punchy sentences and longer, more complex structures to maintain interest and rhythm.

10. *Rhythm*: The rhythm is dynamic, with a lively beat that keeps the reader engaged and propels the narrative forward.

11. *Perspective*: The perspective is often first-person, providing a personal touch and direct connection with the audience.

12. *Tension*: Tension is present in the form of suspense or conflict, often through challenges or obstacles that need to be overcome.

13. *Clarity*: The clarity is high, with ideas presented in a straightforward manner that is easy to understand.

14. *Consistency*: The consistency is strong, maintaining a uniform style and tone throughout each piece.

15. *Emotion*: Emotion is expressed with intensity, often through passionate or enthusiastic language.

16. *Humor*: Humor is present, often through witty remarks or playful language that adds a light-hearted touch.

17. *Irony*: Irony is occasionally used to highlight contradictions or to add a layer of complexity to the narrative.

18. *Symbolism*: Symbolism is used subtly, often through metaphors or analogies that convey deeper meanings.

19. *Complexity*: The complexity is moderate, with ideas presented in a way that is engaging but not overly intricate.

20. *Cohesion*: The cohesion is strong, with different parts of the writing working together harmoniously to support the overall message.```

Re:I almost got hacked by a 'job interview' by firefoxd on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @12:18PM (#45594832)
I can assure you, the original prompt was pretty well written and would have been received well. Don't let LLMs easy of use distract you from your own ability to write and get a point across.
Re:I almost got hacked by a 'job interview' by lukebechtel on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @12:12PM (#45594759)
Thank you for sharing
Re:I almost got hacked by a 'job interview' by etfdeffrhjjjjj on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @12:12PM (#45594751)
holy wtf, there's no way this can be preferable to just writing, feel like i'm taking crazy pills
Re:I almost got hacked by a 'job interview' by flatline on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @12:29PM (#45595008)
The content was good for me up till “The Operation.” Typical of AI output in my experience - some solid parts then verbose, monotonous text that fits one of a handful of genai patterns. “Sloppified” is a good term, once I realize I’m in the middle of this type of content it pulls me out of the narrative and makes me question the authenticity of the whole piece, which is too bad. Thanks for your transparency here and the prompt, I think this approach will prove beneficial as we barrel ahead with widespread AI content.
Re:I almost got hacked by a 'job interview' by ishouldbework on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @12:49PM (#45595322)
So, uh, this part "Here's the kicker: the URL died exactly 24 hours later. These guys weren't messing around - they had their infrastructure set up to burn evidence fast." was completely made up by the AI or did you provide the "exactly 24 hours later" information out of band in some chat with the AI?
Re:I almost got hacked by a 'job interview' by DavidDodda on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @02:07PM (#45596364)
no, that was me. i did not setup a watch script or anything to see how long the link was up for. but when I first tried it, it was active, and when I tried it the next day around the same time, it was gone.
Re:I almost got hacked by a 'job interview' by tempestn on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @04:52PM (#45598254)
FYI in case you decide to write without the AI more, "setup" and "checkout" are nouns. If you're using them as verbs, they are two words, "set up" and "check out". You can remember which is which based on whether it would make sense to put another word between them, ie. "set it up" or "check something out", vs "the setup of the document" or "a fresh checkout of this branch".
Re:I almost got hacked by a 'job interview' by kenjackson on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @08:53PM (#45600286)
Is this generally a way to determine when to split a compound word?
Re:I almost got hacked by a 'job interview' by tempestn on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @09:59PM (#45600672)
I'm no linguist, but I think it should work for most of these sorts of words where the noun is a compound word and the verb form is two words, which seems to be fairly common. ie. log in, back up, break down, work out.

Looks like the commonality is that the second word in the pair is often one of (in, out, up, down).

Re:I almost got hacked by a 'job interview' by chipsrafferty on Friday October 17, 2025 @11:32AM (#45617928)
Easy to remember by the fact that we don't have a lot of compound verbs
Re:I almost got hacked by a 'job interview' by helentoomik on Thursday October 16, 2025 @04:20PM (#45610192)
In these cases, where the term is made up of a combination of a simple verb (set, break, shut, log) plus a preposition (in, up, down, out, off, etc): if it's a verb, it's two words. If it's a noun, it's one word.

Another way to look at it: the verb doesn't magically grow together and apart if you use it in different tenses (past, present, future). "I am setting up" (present) is two words - therefore the "set up" in "I set up a script yesterday" and "I did not set up" also needs to be two words.

Re:I almost got hacked by a 'job interview' by oasisbob on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @01:53PM (#45596184)
Normally I would be coming here to complain about how distasteful AI writing is, and how frequently authors accidentally destroy their voice and rhetoric by using it.

Thanks for sharing your process. This is interesting to see

Re:I almost got hacked by a 'job interview' by burkaman on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @02:14PM (#45596446)
Your original document would have made a great blog post. The only thing the AI did is make it unpleasant to read and generally sound like a fake story.
Re:I almost got hacked by a 'job interview' by phyzome on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @05:21PM (#45598507)
The Google Doc was a better and easier read than the LLM output. If you don't have the time, unpolished stuff in your own voice is just fine.

(The LLM output was more or less unreadable for me, but your original was very easy to follow and was to-the-point.)

Re:I almost got hacked by a 'job interview' by reaperducer on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @06:12PM (#45598933)
just fyi - this went though 11 different versions before reaching this point.

So much for AI improving efficiency.

You could have written a genuine article several times over. Or one article and proofread it.

Re:I almost got hacked by a 'job interview' by teo_zero on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @06:48PM (#45599266)
> You are an AI Bot that is very good at mimicking an author writing style. - Your goal is to write content with the tone that is described below

Genuine question: does this formulation style work better than a plain, direct "Mimick my writing style. Use the tone that is described below"?

Re:I almost got hacked by a 'job interview' by DavidDodda on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @11:50PM (#45601258)
It should.

I haven't updated this prompt in like a year or so. I actually made it for Claude 3.

Re:I almost got hacked by a 'job interview' by chipsrafferty on Friday October 17, 2025 @11:31AM (#45617915)
Just write... The AI slop is unreadable
Re:I almost got hacked by a 'job interview' by zahlman on Monday October 20, 2025 @06:43PM (#45650369)
Traditionally (he said, referring to prior art in a field that has basically only existed for about 3 years), this sort of "flattery" was understood (he said, referring to random rumours he'd read on the Internet) to make a big difference, since otherwise the LLM might roleplay as something else. Presumably the RLHF training is stronger now.
Re:I almost got hacked by a 'job interview' by furyofantares on Thursday October 16, 2025 @12:35AM (#45601497)
Fwiw the google doc there is great. And the actual blog post is a waste of my time. I also have other stuff going on in my life and don't appreciate the LLM output wasting my time at all.

But the google doc is genuinely good stuff.

Re:I almost got hacked by a 'job interview' by nunez on Thursday October 16, 2025 @01:50AM (#45601854)
Agreed; the original doc was much better and actually easier to read!
Re:I almost got hacked by a 'job interview' by pcpuser on Thursday October 16, 2025 @02:07AM (#45601944)
Just want to be the nth person to chime in and say the Google doc variant is the better read.
Re:I almost got hacked by a 'job interview' by surprisetrex on Thursday October 16, 2025 @02:02PM (#45608653)
Honestly yeah, the Google Doc has all of the relevant info in it and is about 1/4 the length.

The LLM doesn’t know anything you didn’t tell it about this scenario, so all it does is add more words to say the same thing, while losing your authorial voice in the process.

I guess to put it a bit too bluntly: if you can’t be bothered writing it, what makes you think people should bother reading it?

Re:I almost got hacked by a 'job interview' by adiian on Friday October 17, 2025 @06:43AM (#45615147)
Nice, I didn't look at the original piece, but this is ai version is viral, it made me want to share this, and usually I don't share stuff.
Re:I almost got hacked by a 'job interview' by mquander on Monday October 20, 2025 @06:36PM (#45650302)
This is fascinating, thanks so much for posting it!
Re:I almost got hacked by a 'job interview' by annoying_write on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @10:47AM (#45593470)
Seconding this, I hate the LLM style. It all reads the exact same. I can't relate at all to people who read the article and can't spot it immediately. It's intensely annoying for an otherwise interesting article.
Re:I almost got hacked by a 'job interview' by nubg on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @10:48AM (#45593488)
Thanks for acknowledging the pain.
Re:I almost got hacked by a 'job interview' by jatins on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @12:49PM (#45595325)
100%, it was hard to take it seriously once you see usual ChatGPT-ism

What's HN policy on obviously LLM written content -- Is it considered kosher?

Re:I almost got hacked by a 'job interview' by foofoo12 on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @02:31PM (#45596654)
I was shocked to read your comment. But then, not only was there a truth to it; you where absolutely right.

* You had the headline spot on. Then you explained what you thought might be the reason for it.

* Then you pondered about why the OP might have done it.

* Finally you challenged the op to all but admitting his sins, by asking him to share the incriminating prompt he used.

---

(my garbage wasn't written by AI, but I tried by best to imitate it's obnoxious style).

Re:I almost got hacked by a 'job interview' by eikowagenknecht on Thursday October 16, 2025 @02:48AM (#45602164)
„you where absolutely right“ could just be the perfect sentence to show you’re a human imitating an ai („where“ should be „were“, an ai wouldn’t misspell this).
Re:I almost got hacked by a 'job interview' by foofoo12 on Thursday October 16, 2025 @06:37AM (#45603754)
Now ain't that something. I got caught by a spelling error whilst pretending to be an AI. I feel like the matrix is glitching.
Re:I almost got hacked by a 'job interview' by protonbob on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @02:43PM (#45596776)
> This wasn't some amateur hour scam. This was sophisticated:

> The Bottom Line"

Re:I almost got hacked by a 'job interview' by Arch-TK on Thursday October 16, 2025 @04:42AM (#45602917)
What's crazy is that I only realised this after my Fiancée pointed it out. Up to that point I thought it was just meandering way too much, I just skipped through most of it.

I've not been using much LLM output recently, and generally I ask it to STFU and just give me what I asked as concisely as possible. Apparently this means I've seriously gotten out of practice on spotting this stuff. This must be what it looks like to a lot of average people ... very scary.

Advice for bloggers:

Write too much, write whatever comes out of your fingers until you ran out of things to write. It shouldn't be too hard to just write whatever comes out, if you save your self-criticism for later.

If you're trying to explain something and you run out of things to write before you manage to succeed at your goal. Do a bit more research. Not being able to write too much about a topic is a good indication that you don't understand it well enough to explain it.

Once you have a mess which somehow gets to the point, cut it way down, think critically about any dead meat. Get rid of anything which isn't actually explaining the topic you want.

Then give it to an LLM, not to re-write, but to provide some editorial suggestions, fix the spelling mistakes, the clunky writing. Be very critical of any major suggestions! Be very critical of anything which no longer feels like it was written by _you_.

At this point, edit it again, scrutinise it. Maybe repeat a subset of the process a couple of times.

This is _enough_ you can post it.

If you want to write a book, get a real editor.

Do not get ChatGPT to write your post.

Re:I almost got hacked by a 'job interview' by DavidDodda on Thursday October 16, 2025 @05:06AM (#45603095)
thanks for the feedback!

that's one of my key takeaways from all the comments here. a lot of people actually like the og - pre ai content I wrote more than the blog article it became. i just have to be confident in my own writing I guess.

btw, how do you have Arch in your name and have a Fiancee? sounds fishy :) /s

Re:I almost got hacked by a 'job interview' by Arch-TK on Thursday October 16, 2025 @10:03AM (#45605487)
I don't use Arch any-more. But we met on IRC. We both still use Linux :)
Re:I almost got hacked by a 'job interview' by munksbeer on Thursday October 16, 2025 @09:55AM (#45605375)
"instead of the slop that came out."

This "slop" reads perfectly fine to me, and obviously a lot of others, except those who have now been conditioned to watch out for it and react negatively about it.

Think about it, why react negatively? The text reads fine. It is clear, even with my usual lack of attention I found it engaging, and read to the end. In fact, it doesn't engage in the usual hubris style prose that a lot of people think makes them look smarter.

Re:I almost got hacked by a 'job interview' by chipsrafferty on Friday October 17, 2025 @11:37AM (#45618002)
1. It's bad prose. If you think it reads fine, you don't read good prose.

2. It's immediately recognized as AI Slop which makes people question its veracity, or intent

3. If the author can't take the time and effort to create a well-crafhed article, it's insulting to ask us to take the time and effort to read it.

4. Allowing this style of writing to become accepted and commonplace leads to a death of variety of styles over time and is not good for anyone. For multiple reasons.

5. A lot of people are cranking out shit just for money, so maybe they wrote this just for money and maybe it's not even true (related to point 3)

Re:I almost got hacked by a 'job interview' by munksbeer on Friday October 17, 2025 @04:36PM (#45621749)
I genuinely think you're wrong and you're only seeing things this way because you have formed a dislike about AI. The prose was absolutely fine - and this sort of comment

> If you think it reads fine, you don't read good prose.

Is reductive and not in good spirit.

Good day.

Re:I almost got hacked by a 'job interview' by throw5f3e675 on Sunday October 19, 2025 @10:38AM (#45634469)
I wonder if the difference of opinion is due to native English speakers versus those who learned as a second language?

I found the AI version to be really clear and it helped me understand everything that was going on.

I found the Google doc version harder to read and slightly difficult to understand.

Re:I almost got hacked by a 'job interview' by arendtio on Thursday October 16, 2025 @03:36PM (#45609758)
Funny, first I thought I liked the brief style. Then I thought sounds very much like an AI.

And when I read the Google doc, I understood, that I would have preferred the Google doc as well :-D

Re:I almost got hacked by a 'job interview' by relatall on Friday October 17, 2025 @01:13AM (#45613499)
my best learning- zero trust to employers, real or fake, bug or small. start your own business, big or small, better than being employed