Apple M5 chip - Hackdot

Re:Apple M5 chip by littlecranky67 on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @10:01AM (#45592726)

I don't buy it either, because Apples GPTK works similar as Proton - they have a DX12-to-Metal Layer that works quite well - if it works. And their GPTK is based on wine, just as proton. It is more other annoyances like lack of steam support. There are patched version of steam circulating that run in GPTK though (offline mode) but that is where everything gets finnicky and brittle. It is mostly community efforts, and I think gaming could be way better on Apple if they embrace the Proton-approach that they started with GPTK.

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Re:Apple M5 chip by ldoughty on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @10:12AM (#45592884)

Apple collects no money from Steam sales, so they don't see a reason to support it.

You don't buy Apple to use your computer they way you want to use it. You buy it to use it the way they tell you to. E.g. "you're holding it wrong" fiasco.

In some ways this is good for general consumers (and even developers, with limited config comes less unpredictablilty)... However this generally is bad for power users or "niche" users like Mac gamers.

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Re:Apple M5 chip by littlecranky67 on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @11:07AM (#45593767)

> Apple collects no money from Steam sales, so they don't see a reason to support it.

That is true, but now they are in a position where their hardware is actually more affordable and powerful than their Windows/x86 counterpart - and Win 11 is a shitload of adware and an annoyance in itself, layered ontop of a OS. They could massively expand their hardware sales to the gaming sector.

I'm eyeing at a framework Desktop with an AMD AI 395 APU for gaming (I am happy with just 1080p@60) and am looking at 2000€ to spend, because I wan't a small form factor. Don't quote me on the benchmarks, but a Mac Mini on M4 Pro is probably cheaper and more powerful for gaming - IF it had proper software support.

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Re:Apple M5 chip by raw_anon_1111 on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @10:55AM (#45593597)

Apple collects no money from Photoshop, Microsoft, or anything else that runs on the Mac besides the tiny minority of apps sold on the Mac App Store.

Not to mention many subscription services on iOS that don’t allow you to subscribe through the App Store.

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