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Re:FSF Announces Librephone Project by koolala on Tuesday October 14, 2025 @08:54PM (#45586817)
What kind of transactions require this? Normal bank transactions don't, right?
Re:FSF Announces Librephone Project by lmm on Tuesday October 14, 2025 @09:52PM (#45587205)
Depends on the bank's policies. Currently it tends to be when you transfer to a new destination and/or above a certain amount. I could certainly imagine a bank requiring it for every PC-initiated transaction as and when they reach a point where most normie customers are using their app.
Re:FSF Announces Librephone Project by koolala on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @12:38AM (#45588139)
"Every PC-initiated transaction" doesn't make sense to me. What type are transactions are you talking about?
Re:FSF Announces Librephone Project by lmm on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @12:50AM (#45588183)
> What type are transactions are you talking about?

Bank transfers and I guess direct debit authorisations (if your bank requires you to confirm those) and reauthorisation/confirmation of card payments that were blocked by the bank's fraud detection. I think those are the only kinds of transactions one would ever use a PC for? I mean for me most of my day-to-day transactions are me paying by debit card in a shop, but you can't do that on a PC in the first place; pretty much everything else I do on my PC.

Re:FSF Announces Librephone Project by koolala on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @01:28AM (#45588370)
Do you have to authorize those day-to-day transactions with your debit card on your phone every time?
Re:FSF Announces Librephone Project by lmm on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @02:21AM (#45588701)
No. Only to unblock when they get blocked/flagged as fraud (tends to happen for large transactions like plane tickets or buying a bunch of furniture), and even then I currently have the option of authorizing via the web browser (and I think also via phone call).

But sending a bank transfer is also a fairly common day-to-day transaction that I do a couple of times a month (and is the only way to pay for some government services like tax certificates short of visiting the tax office in person). Authorising a new direct debit happens occasionally (joined a gym, changed my utility provider, got a new credit card, that kind of thing).

Re:FSF Announces Librephone Project by degamad on Tuesday October 14, 2025 @10:15PM (#45587368)
Fraud prevention on my primary transaction account requires 2FA for every transfer.

The only supported 2FA is the bank's own dedicated 2FA app.

Re:FSF Announces Librephone Project by koolala on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @12:39AM (#45588144)
So if you buy something on Amazon with your debit card you have to authorize it?
Re:FSF Announces Librephone Project by jojobas on Tuesday October 14, 2025 @09:11PM (#45586968)
Transfer of more than a set amount between even your own accounts in different banks.
Re:FSF Announces Librephone Project by koolala on Tuesday October 14, 2025 @09:16PM (#45587008)
Between your own accounts is the main use-case because you typically can't transfer between different banks.
Re:FSF Announces Librephone Project by lmm on Tuesday October 14, 2025 @09:52PM (#45587210)
> you typically can't transfer between different banks

WTF? What kind of shitty banking system are you using?

Re:FSF Announces Librephone Project by koolala on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @12:37AM (#45588135)
Wells Fargo said to do it I had to use Zelle.
Re:FSF Announces Librephone Project by lmm on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @12:51AM (#45588184)
Wow. You guys really need better banking regulation.
Re:FSF Announces Librephone Project by immibis on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @07:15AM (#45590730)
AFAIK Zelle is something US banks got together and set up on their own because the government didn't. So a Zelle transfer is the US equivalent of a SEPA transfer.
Re:FSF Announces Librephone Project by brewdad on Tuesday October 14, 2025 @09:02PM (#45586889)
My brokerages require it every time I login from a computer. My bank will require it if it can't find a cookie from a previous login session. Occasionally, my bank will require it seemingly randomly since I usually log in at least once a week from my laptop yet every couple of months or so I have to reconfirm on the app or another secondary method.
Re:FSF Announces Librephone Project by koolala on Tuesday October 14, 2025 @09:03PM (#45586899)
What are the other secondary methods?