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Re:Ask HN: Why do engineers hate salespeople? by rawgabbit on Tuesday October 14, 2025 @07:30PM (#45586234)
Because the decision makers do not make their choice on a purely rational basis. Usually the deal was already agreed to through back channels. Then comes the dog and pony show where they shop for some cost-benefit analysis or pay a consultant or just plain lie to justify their decision.
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Re:Ask HN: Why do engineers hate salespeople? by jqpabc123 on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @07:55AM (#45591034)
American management is really a cult.

There are members and outcasts.

Members are rewarded and nurtured. Outcasts are restricted, controlled and overruled. In American business society, engineering will forever be an outcast --- not because it's logical but because it's a tradition --- one that the cult rarely breaks.

Outcasts are rarely allowed to voice an opinion (Example: Boeing). The overall structure is really descended from the plantation system which is a variation of the even older feudal system.

The only real escape for an outcast --- start your own business --- which I did decades ago.

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