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Re:Why the push for Agentic when models can barely follow a ... by saulpw on Tuesday October 14, 2025 @11:40AM (#45581363)
An LLM has no mind! What is your strong theory of mind for an LLM? That it knows the whole internet and can regurgitate it like a mindless zombie?
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Re:Why the push for Agentic when models can barely follow a ... by kelseyfrog on Tuesday October 14, 2025 @03:12PM (#45583626)
Source?

It sounds like an unprovable metaphysical statement than something that is supported by scientific evidence.

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Re:Why the push for Agentic when models can barely follow a ... by fao_ on Tuesday October 14, 2025 @03:47PM (#45583963)
The burden of proof is on people stating that an AI has a theory of mind, not on the reverse. Until recently it was highly debated on if dogs have theory of mind, and it took decades of evidence to come to the conclusion that yes, they do.
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Re:Why the push for Agentic when models can barely follow a ... by judahmeek on Tuesday October 14, 2025 @04:47PM (#45584640)
GGP didn't say that AI has a theory of mind. GGP said that using AI productively requires a theory of mind, a.k.a. being able to build a mental model of the LLM's context.
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Re:Why the push for Agentic when models can barely follow a ... by kelseyfrog on Tuesday October 14, 2025 @05:26PM (#45585183)
The burden of proof is on the person making the claim. It doesn't matter whether the claim is positive or negative. The default position is "We don't know if AI has a ToM."
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Re:Why the push for Agentic when models can barely follow a ... by sirtaj on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @09:28AM (#45592188)
Am I incorrect in thinking this is as much true of the linux kernel or emacs as it is of an LLM?
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Re:Why the push for Agentic when models can barely follow a ... by rmwaite on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @12:47PM (#45595283)
If you read carefully you will see that they never said AI has a theory of mind.
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Re:Why the push for Agentic when models can barely follow a ... by xg15 on Tuesday October 14, 2025 @07:33PM (#45586252)
Whether or not it has a mind is irrelevant to the problem. I think the point is, if you pretend it had a mind and write your prompt accordingly, you will get the best results.
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