> My outrage is informed by people like you who think it is OK in any form whatever.

This is pretty incoherent. What information are you gaining by me thinking that it is okay? How does that information cause your outrage? If you didn’t hear about anybody thinking it was okay, you wouldn’t be outraged?

No amount of my device spying on me is acceptable, no matter how cleverly implemented. The fact that your comment said anything positive about it at all without acknowledging that it is an insane idea and should never be put into practice is what I was referring to.

> No amount of my device spying on me is acceptable

You see, this is the problem I have with the ignorance around this. Even though you are making what appears to be a very simple decision, you are uninformed in a potentially meaningful way!

I’m not sure you can accurately describe Apple’s proposal as “my device spying on me”. It’s debatable. Some people will fall on one side of the line, and some people will fall on the other. And that’s a perfectly reasonable thing to disagree on.

But if you are deciding that it’s unacceptable because you don’t want your device to spy on you, then the fact that this isn’t as obviously true as you believe is a big deal, because it undermines your entire opinion on it.

If your device wasn’t spying on you, would you still be against it?

I read the whitepaper they published and worked at Apple at the time this idea was rightly pulled. I understand it perfectly fine and stand by my words.