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Re:Apple Designs a Virtual Knob by StopDisinfo910 on Saturday October 11, 2025 @06:45PM (#45553310)
> What would the alternative be?

Large slider which doesn’t change place, buttons to select what you are adjusting. Display the current value on the button if you need it to stay visible.

The magic of software ux is that you can actually replace things on a screen in a way you can’t on a physical device.

Re:Apple Designs a Virtual Knob by astafrig on Saturday October 11, 2025 @07:06PM (#45553500)
Then you can only adjust one thing at a time—so you’ve just created the worst of both worlds with a multi-touch display and live music software.
Re:Apple Designs a Virtual Knob by StopDisinfo910 on Saturday October 11, 2025 @07:23PM (#45553637)
There is absolutely no way you successfully adjust two knobs at the same time on a multitouch display, let alone while doing live music. They are barely usable one by one.

There is a reason people serious about doing music keep using physical knobs to change values in their software. I’m entirely convinced the sole reason DAWs use virtual knobs despite them being such a poor UX element is because people will map them to MIDI knobs anyway and that keeps the software and physical world looking the same.

Re:Apple Designs a Virtual Knob by squeaky-clean on Sunday October 12, 2025 @03:47AM (#45556178)
> There is absolutely no way you successfully adjust two knobs at the same time on a multitouch display, let alone while doing live music

I do it all the time on an iPad. It handles up to 5 simultaneous controls very well.

Re:Apple Designs a Virtual Knob by fyolnish on Sunday October 12, 2025 @08:21AM (#45557695)
Same here
Re:Apple Designs a Virtual Knob by quesera on Sunday October 12, 2025 @06:59PM (#45562834)
There's a demo app for the original iPad multitouch display, which can distinguish eleven simultaneous inputs.

Prompting the obvious question: Why eleven?

Re:Apple Designs a Virtual Knob by eszed on Monday October 13, 2025 @02:40AM (#45565396)
You don't ever use your nose as an additional input device? I thought everyone did that.
Re:Apple Designs a Virtual Knob by MattPalmer1086 on Sunday October 12, 2025 @05:05AM (#45556666)
Kind of a self fulfilling prophecy then. I had to figure out how to map the knobs to MIDI hardware because it was so hard to adjust them on screen!

At that point I guess the physical resemblance is a virtue.

Re:Apple Designs a Virtual Knob by charrondev on Saturday October 11, 2025 @06:54PM (#45553377)
Then you can’t see the value at a glance though.