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Re:The Unofficial Jobs Numbers Are in and It's Rough Out There by cyanydeez on Wednesday October 08, 2025 @02:43PM (#45519270)
There are definitely right wing talking points being shrouded as centrist or other fascism.

Like one thing that I see often are the "they deserve this right-wing grift". Like, there's a lot of people who quickly love to do victim blaming when there's now like one near left mainstream media (NBC) and the remainder are all some right wing grooming station.

There's definitely a center that needs to be reminded that they're currently surrounded by right wing propaganda and they're all trying to move the overton window.

You're right the far right is far gone, but the rest of civil society is still drifting, from apathy or misdirection or serious grift or be grifted realities.

Re:The Unofficial Jobs Numbers Are in and It's Rough Out There by BugsJustFindMe on Wednesday October 08, 2025 @03:15PM (#45519571)
Ok, let's imagine that I agree with what you just said...

Given your stated premise of the major media landscape being manipulative right-wing grooming stations hiding behind veneers of centrism and the unimaginable power that carries with it, what do you think can legitimately counter the state of things you described other than an empire-shifting media effort that would take financial investments on the scale of an entire small nation state?

If they're uninformed, how much can you actually inform them against the background? If they're uncaring, still, after everything, how can you make them care? If they're undecided, still, after everything, how will you get them to decide?

Re:The Unofficial Jobs Numbers Are in and It's Rough Out There by bigbadfeline on Wednesday October 08, 2025 @04:34PM (#45520311)
> how much can you actually inform them against the background?

Depends on who you is, in the sense of how many. You seem to be unaware of that choice.

Re:The Unofficial Jobs Numbers Are in and It's Rough Out There by BugsJustFindMe on Wednesday October 08, 2025 @05:20PM (#45520779)
How many of me does it take to reverse https://www.pewresearch.org/chart/sotnm-cable-newsroom-spend... or https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20241107961040/en/New...

What's our message? What's our reach? Are we coordinated? Are we effective?

Re:The Unofficial Jobs Numbers Are in and It's Rough Out There by AnimalMuppet on Wednesday October 08, 2025 @03:36PM (#45519776)
All the media except NBS is a "right wing grooming station"? Seriously? CNN? AP News? Reuters? Huffpo? They're all grooming people for the right wing?

I mean, I agree that the right wing is pumping out propaganda and trying to move the overton window, but I think you are seriously mistaken about where the media is at.

Re:The Unofficial Jobs Numbers Are in and It's Rough Out There by bigbadfeline on Wednesday October 08, 2025 @04:36PM (#45520338)
> All the media except NBS is a "right wing grooming station"? Seriously? CNN? AP News? Reuters? Huffpo?

Ever heard of "good cop, bad cop"? Look it up.

Re:The Unofficial Jobs Numbers Are in and It's Rough Out There by cyanydeez on Thursday October 09, 2025 @03:39PM (#45532130)
Well, you're right in that we have to assume the right wing ibllionaire who bought CNN will ensure their editorial view point is properly aligned.

But lets be honest, you want to believe that there's some happy push and pull between left and right instead of a heavy handed skew into far right.

It's not just good business as Fox has demonstrated, it's also good _self interest_ to go into the conservative business.

I'm sorry.