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Re:German government comes out against Chat Control by KPGv2 on Wednesday October 08, 2025 @10:53AM (#45516863)
@j-krieger Arguing that the existence of regulations makes an economy non-capitalist is something I've only ever seen extreme left and extreme right-wing people make. Everyone else recognizes "capitalism is a system based on private ownership, wage labor, and private capital accumulation" as a fundamental truth, including, like, all experts in this field. Ultimately, you're making a No True Scotsman argument.

Germany's market is an example of welfare capitalism, which is a type of capitalism.

What you're writing reminds me very much of "the USA isn't a democracy, it's a republic!" (as if a republic isn't a type of democracy called "representative democracy")

Re:German government comes out against Chat Control by mfru on Thursday October 09, 2025 @02:08AM (#45524102)
exactly, it is like the "this is not capitalism it is corporatism!" argument the libertarians like to make about the US.
Re:German government comes out against Chat Control by j-krieger on Thursday October 09, 2025 @11:10AM (#45528789)
> @j-krieger Arguing that the existence of regulations makes an economy non-capitalist is something I've only ever seen extreme left and extreme right-wing people make.

Good thing I haven't argued that at all. I was arguing that Germany, which calls its economic system "Social Economics" in fact employs this very economic strategy, which is defined as not being straight forward capitalist but as a mixture of capitalism and socialism.

> Germany's market is an example of welfare capitalism, which is a type of capitalism.

Germany's market is per definition not welfare capitalism, but "social economics". This term exists, it is well defined, you can look it up.