Re:German government comes out against Chat Control
by miroljub on Wednesday October 08, 2025 @10:47AM
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> This is completely untrue. The Atomaustieg happened under Merkel (CDU) and was catalyzed by Fukushima. That's democracy, for you, btw.
So, when the government does something populistic (with majority support) that is bad for the country, it's a democracy.
But when the government refuses to do something populistic (with majority support) that is good for the country, that's also democracy.
Looks like our democracy #unsereDemokratie it is not possible to do good, only harmful dealings are allowed :)
Re:German government comes out against Chat Control
by jijijijij on Wednesday October 08, 2025 @01:43PM
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I suggest you read the German constitution, if you have questions about these sort of things.
Re:German government comes out against Chat Control
by miroljub on Thursday October 09, 2025 @03:42AM
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I suggest you explain your point here instead of dropping random links in a typical passive-aggressive way that suggests the poster has no clue and needs to be educated about the basics. That may work in your SPD Kreisverband, but not in a digital Neuland.
If you have questions about how to respond, this is a good starting point: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_alphabet
This is completely untrue. The Atomaustieg happened under Merkel (CDU) and was catalyzed by Fukushima. That's democracy, for you, btw.
The current energy "crisis" was due to idiotic trust (CDU/SPD) in Russia's goodwill and consequently opting for huge structural natural gas dependency. Foreign energy dependency wouldn't change with with nuclear power, since uranium isn't mined in Germany. Russia actually is a major uranium exporter (btw still supplying the US). Uranium mines are a horrible dirty shit show, western nations tend to outsource...
Another grave mistake was discontinuing the funding/support of renewable energy industry and research, where Germany was leading once. Now, China rules in solar manufacturing. Germany still got game for wind energy, tho.
Germany does not have a need for "base load" nuclear power plants, we need a substitute for gas power plants, which can be easily turned on/off as needed. Factually, no one in the energy industry in Germany wants to go nuclear, again. It's just not economical, sensible (as for time scales) or overall competitive with renewables (unless less regulated/dangerous, enormously substituted).
Overall, we got mostly off Russian gas dependency exceptionally well and quick, all things considered, because of pragmatic green politics at the time (Habeck's image suffered because of deliberate smear campaigns, not because of severe factual failings). Lights stayed on, things kept moving, under downright hostile conditions. Renewable energy is booming. You see solar everywhere, no matter the political alignment.
Considering the real threat of war with Russia, distributed renewables are an invaluable asset. Try bombing wind power or solar... gonna get expensive. Many houses here are becoming quasi autarkic for heating, electricity and mobility, due to household solar panels, heat pumps, energy storage in electric cars and dedicated batteries. A central multi-GW nuclear power plant is a huge liability for national security, especially, since Germany is existentially dependent on the French and UK strategic nuclear deterrent. (US not reliable/trustworthy anymore.)
The only sensible reason to build reactors in Germany would be breading/enriching weapons-grade fission material, for self-sufficient nuclear defense... Which I don't see happening really.