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Re:Who Owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN Relationships ... by pessimizer on Tuesday October 07, 2025 @12:16PM (#45505057)
I have absolutely no idea why Russian ties are supposed to be more worrying than Ukrainian ties.

Ukrainian ties with government and tech in the US have been a serious source of problems; our last President was haunted by business ties with Ukraine; our current President was impeached for refusing to sell weapons quickly enough to Ukraine; we funded neo-Nazi groups in Ukraine in order to bring down its elected government and replace it with a puppet government that immediately set its sights on eradicating the Russian presence from Ukraine; Crowdstrike, a company of Ukrainian origin, was the company whose analysis was taken as gospel for the Democratic Party email leaks, and that report was used to market Russia into the greatest enemy the world has ever known, creating an entirely fictional narrative now referred to as Russiagate; and during this entire process the West and the US have been sending palletloads of cash and weapons to Ukraine to the tune of tens or hundreds of billions of dollars, and becoming personally financially entangled with Ukrainian oligarchs.

Why should I be worried that they Russians are eavesdropping on my proxy again? They're not going to send it to anyone who cares about what I'm doing, and they certainly don't care what I'm doing. Ukraine is the most corrupt, poorest country in Europe, completely tied up in our intelligence services, and is "run" by a tv actor.

Re:Who Owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN Relationships ... by verteu on Tuesday October 07, 2025 @01:42PM (#45506272)
Russiagate was not a "fictional narrative," as a cursory amount of research will reveal.

> The Republican-led Senate Intelligence Committee investigation released their report in five volumes between July 2019 and August 2020. The committee concluded that the intelligence community assessment alleging Russian interference was "coherent and well-constructed", and that the assessment was "proper", learning from analysts that there was "no politically motivated pressure to reach specific conclusions".[11][12] The report found that the Russian government had engaged in an "extensive campaign" to sabotage the election in favor of Trump, which included assistance from some of Trump's own advisers.

Re:Who Owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN Relationships ... by IAmBroom on Tuesday October 07, 2025 @02:02PM (#45506523)
Our last President was haunted by completely unverified claims of business ties with Ukraine. Someone in UKR clearly tried to buy influence via his son, but all the force of Fox News and the GOP together couldn't produce one single sticky-note worth of evidence tying it to any success.

Painting "armed invasion" as "Russian presence" is like calling "stabbing someone in an alley" a "medical procedure".

We get it; you love Mother Russia.