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Re:Everything that's wrong with Java in a single class by shortlived on Thursday September 20, 2012 @04:07PM (#4550418)
I totally agree on java logging. Lambdas would be nice. Checked exceptions? I love them.

Lastly Eclipse is THE best thing since sliced bread. I LOL'ed when you mentioned vim/emacs in the same sentence. Have you actually used Eclipse on a big code base? It's introspection is such a productivity booster. I've not used jetbrains in a decade, but nothing else out there beats it, hands down. Both in terms of speed and quality.

Re:Everything that's wrong with Java in a single class by cletus on Thursday September 20, 2012 @04:14PM (#4550454)
Did you read what I said? "vim/emacs are [for Java] no better". This was in part to head off the predictable chimes from some of "all IDEs are stupid, (vim|emacs) is the best thing since sliced bread".

My tool of choice for Java is however IntelliJ, which is simply light years ahead of Eclipse (IMHO).

Re:Everything that's wrong with Java in a single class by rickmode on Thursday September 20, 2012 @05:28PM (#4550820)
> My tool of choice for Java is however IntelliJ, which is simply light years ahead of Eclipse (IMHO).

I agree.

Eclipse seems to always become unstable once enough plugins are installed. After a few updates and removals it ends up tipping over regularly. I suspect the underlying OSGi plugin system is a tricky thing to get right.

Intellij IDEA seems to "just work".

That said, I prefer coding in Clojure with Aquamacs but I've yet to get Clojure into a production system.

Re:Everything that's wrong with Java in a single class by DomreiRoam on Friday September 21, 2012 @05:21AM (#4552960)
I m using IntelliJ at home but at work we use yoxos.

Yoxos allows the creation of eclipse profile that make it easier to have stable eclipse.

If you have a lot of eclipse users, I think yoxos is the way to go.

But I still use IntelliJ at home :)

NB: I m talking about this yoxos: https://yoxos.eclipsesource.com/

Re:Everything that's wrong with Java in a single class by shortlived on Friday September 21, 2012 @06:27AM (#4553129)
Yes, I read it and still think it's laughable that anyone would mention them in the same sentence...
Re:Everything that's wrong with Java in a single class by keypusher on Thursday September 20, 2012 @05:17PM (#4550748)
If you haven't used IntelliJ in a decade, how can you be so convinced that Eclipse beats it "hands down"? While they offer many of the same capabilities, most people I know who have used both extensively tend to prefer IntelliJ for Java development.
Re:Everything that's wrong with Java in a single class by tikhonj on Thursday September 20, 2012 @07:07PM (#4551232)
I think he meant "nothing except possibly IDEA beats Eclipse". Now, whether you agree with that or not is a different story...
Re:Everything that's wrong with Java in a single class by nevster on Friday September 21, 2012 @01:00AM (#4552386)
IntelliJ FTW!