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Re:Way past its prime: how did Amazon get so rubbish? by OutOfHere on Sunday October 05, 2025 @03:41AM (#45479641)
CSRs lying has been a serious problem at Amazon and it's astonishing that Amazon hasn't duly addressed it.
Re:Way past its prime: how did Amazon get so rubbish? by bornfreddy on Sunday October 05, 2025 @03:55AM (#45479734)
I don't think there even is a problem, from Amazon's point of view. CSRs can't tell you the truth ("we will try to avoid refunding you or will delay it as much as possible"), they can't stay quiet (because then delaying won't be as efficient) and they can't blame the company (because... well, they can't). So lying is basically all they can do.
Re:Way past its prime: how did Amazon get so rubbish? by OutOfHere on Sunday October 05, 2025 @12:56PM (#45483152)
They should speak the truth, citing the Amazon policy on the matter, and provide the path for escalation.

As it stands, I will vote negatively for any CSR interaction that doesn't resolve my issue immediately while the conversation is still active, irrespective of whether they say they have addressed it.

Re:Way past its prime: how did Amazon get so rubbish? by pfexec on Sunday October 05, 2025 @03:54AM (#45479726)
Easily solvable by not placing their CSRs in parts of the world where lying is such a cultural norm it's expected in normal business.
Re:Way past its prime: how did Amazon get so rubbish? by harvey9 on Sunday October 05, 2025 @04:12AM (#45479817)
Anyone who needs that job to pay their rent is going to follow the script the company gives them.
Re:Way past its prime: how did Amazon get so rubbish? by pfexec on Sunday October 05, 2025 @04:13AM (#45479824)
Well they must give the stateside CSRs a different script because whenever I win the lottery and get an American on the phone it's a night and day difference. Notably they seem capable of solving complex problems without lying or smoke and mirrors.
Re:Way past its prime: how did Amazon get so rubbish? by onion2k on Sunday October 05, 2025 @04:53AM (#45480038)
In any high-churn job environment like customer support it's easier to assume people will leave rather than fire them. Most of the time you'll be right. That means there's no incentive to manage bad workers.
Re:Way past its prime: how did Amazon get so rubbish? by OutOfHere on Sunday October 05, 2025 @12:59PM (#45483186)
Isn't the high-churn more of a domestic issue? When the job gets outsourced, is there still high-churn?