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Re:Interstellar Object 3I/Atlas Passed Mars Last Night by ceejayoz on Friday October 03, 2025 @06:54PM (#45468751)
He was well respected. As the saying goes, open your mind too far and it falls out of the cranium.
Re:Interstellar Object 3I/Atlas Passed Mars Last Night by all2 on Friday October 03, 2025 @07:57PM (#45469141)
There's an excellent quote from the WH40k universe:

    An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and its walls unguarded.
Re:Interstellar Object 3I/Atlas Passed Mars Last Night by exe34 on Saturday October 04, 2025 @01:07AM (#45470654)
that's not what an open mind is though. an open mind is one that is willing to question what is inside as much as it is willing to question what is outside.

a side effect of questioning what is inside leads to allowing some of what is outside in.

Re:Interstellar Object 3I/Atlas Passed Mars Last Night by ares623 on Saturday October 04, 2025 @02:01AM (#45470888)
My favorite piece of media is Contact (book and movie).

Ellie is someone I would consider having an open mind. She dedicates her work, at great risk to her own career, finding signs of extraterrestrial life. Despite everyone telling her not to waste time and resources on it. But she does and she does it by collecting the evidence first, and when she got it, double and triple checked it before making the announcement.

Avi kind of does the opposite. He hypes his ideas up first, often taking credit for others' work, without sufficient evidence.

Re:Interstellar Object 3I/Atlas Passed Mars Last Night by andrei_says_ on Saturday October 04, 2025 @03:16AM (#45471294)
One of my other favorite piece of media is the intro of a Rick and Morty episode parodying the plot of contact. Highly recommended.
Re:Interstellar Object 3I/Atlas Passed Mars Last Night by ares623 on Saturday October 04, 2025 @06:06AM (#45472186)
I missed that. I’ll have to look it up.
Re:Interstellar Object 3I/Atlas Passed Mars Last Night by phatskat on Tuesday October 07, 2025 @01:46AM (#45499746)
The South Park reference was pretty good too imo
Re:Interstellar Object 3I/Atlas Passed Mars Last Night by andrei_says_ on Thursday October 09, 2025 @12:57AM (#45523677)
I think this is it.

Perfect and brutal.

https://youtu.be/RAchthXUvtU?si=nvdL-tqpnF1aKuRi

Re:Interstellar Object 3I/Atlas Passed Mars Last Night by zikzak on Friday October 03, 2025 @07:06PM (#45468841)
Um, ok. I think he's still doing ok and his fellow academics would prefer he didn't openly speculate about pet theories. They think it is embarrassing.

But ask yourself where we'd be if noone ever asked what if.

There's a reason he called his project to observe anomalous phenomenon The Galileo Project. Ring a bell?

Re:Interstellar Object 3I/Atlas Passed Mars Last Night by ceejayoz on Friday October 03, 2025 @07:41PM (#45469054)
> There's a reason he called his project to observe anomalous phenomenon The Galileo Project. Ring a bell?

Sure, like the Patriot Act was about patriotism.

Re:Interstellar Object 3I/Atlas Passed Mars Last Night by ares623 on Friday October 03, 2025 @07:17PM (#45468900)
Didn’t Galileo collect evidence first?
Re:Interstellar Object 3I/Atlas Passed Mars Last Night by alganet on Friday October 03, 2025 @08:20PM (#45469291)
"What if it's an alien artifact?" - We're going to observe it.

"What if it's a natural object?" - We're going to observe it.

That's it. It's all we can reasonably do for now. It changes nothing.

Re:Interstellar Object 3I/Atlas Passed Mars Last Night by exe34 on Saturday October 04, 2025 @01:08AM (#45470662)
Very little observing involves just the eyes. much of what we observe relies on millennia of assumptions. if we don't consider alternatives that we would normally reject out of hand, we can miss things.
Re:Interstellar Object 3I/Atlas Passed Mars Last Night by alganet on Saturday October 04, 2025 @06:16AM (#45472235)
Space agencies are already pointing every single instrument they can at this thing.
Re:Interstellar Object 3I/Atlas Passed Mars Last Night by exe34 on Saturday October 04, 2025 @12:00PM (#45474271)
I bet the aliens are having an annual picnic in the opposite direction!
Re:Interstellar Object 3I/Atlas Passed Mars Last Night by philbo on Saturday October 04, 2025 @02:32AM (#45471039)
I think 3I/Atlas is a comet.

But I also think the question "what if it wasn't" is useful to consider.

I'd label anyone unwilling to discuss that topic a crank, not the other way round.

Re:Interstellar Object 3I/Atlas Passed Mars Last Night by ceejayoz on Saturday October 04, 2025 @08:47AM (#45472940)
“What if” is just fine.

Loeb goes quite a bit further than that.

Re:Interstellar Object 3I/Atlas Passed Mars Last Night by philbo on Saturday October 04, 2025 @05:38PM (#45476949)
Does he though? Honestly I haven't seen it.

I've been through the last ~10 or ~15 posts on his Medium this evening, to check. Sentence-by-sentence I don't see anything that goes beyond "what if". Can you share some of the quotes you have in mind?

I think this is an interesting phenomenon, because it seems that lots of people throw personal insults at him (not saying that's you btw) without addressing the meat of whatever they're reacting to.

And lest we forget! One of the founding essays [1] of this very website discusses it: if you're slinging ad hominem attacks or personal insults around, you're by definition losing the "argument" (not that I think this qualifies as an "argument").

[1]: https://paulgraham.com/disagree.html

Re:Interstellar Object 3I/Atlas Passed Mars Last Night by ceejayoz on Monday October 06, 2025 @07:55AM (#45490394)