Re:OpenAI Is Just Another Boring, Desperate AI Startup
by corentin88 on Friday October 03, 2025 @02:57PM
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McDonald’s has brand moat. So does Coca-Cola. And many more products. The switching cost is null, but the brand does it all.
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Re:OpenAI Is Just Another Boring, Desperate AI Startup
by minimaxir on Friday October 03, 2025 @03:00PM
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Again, that's brand loyalty, not a brand moat.
Moats, as noted in Google's "We Have no Moat, and Neither Does OpenAI" memo that made the discussion of moats relevant in AI circles, has a specific economic definition.
Re:OpenAI Is Just Another Boring, Desperate AI Startup
by Sammi on Friday October 03, 2025 @05:12PM
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The Seven Powers is considered an authoritarian source on business moats.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/32816087-7-powers
It has branding as one of the seven and uses coca cola as an example.
Re:OpenAI Is Just Another Boring, Desperate AI Startup
by qcnguy on Saturday October 04, 2025 @07:09AM
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Switching costs only make sense to talk about for fully online businesses. The "switching cost" for McDonalds depends heavily on whether there's a Burger King nearby. If there isn't then your "switching cost" might now be a 30 minute drive, which is very much a moat.
Re:OpenAI Is Just Another Boring, Desperate AI Startup
by Incipient on Saturday October 04, 2025 @09:19AM
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That's not entirely true. They have a 'infinite' product moat - no one can reproduce a big mac. Essentially every AI model is now 'the same' (queue debate on this). The only way they can build a moat is by adding features beyond the model that lock people in.