News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:How the AI Bubble Will Pop by throw0101d on Thursday October 02, 2025 @07:36AM (#45448352)
Perhaps worth remembering that 'over-enthusiasm' for new technologies dates back to (at least) canal-mania:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_Revolutions_and_...

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canal_Mania

Re:How the AI Bubble Will Pop by foofoo12 on Thursday October 02, 2025 @08:10AM (#45448615)
There's a good podcast on the Suez and Panama canal: https://omny.fm/shows/cautionary-tales-with-tim-harford/the-...
Re:How the AI Bubble Will Pop by leojfc on Thursday October 02, 2025 @07:45AM (#45448408)
Absolutely. Years ago I found this book on the topic really eye-opening:

- https://www.amazon.co.uk/Technological-Revolutions-Financial...

The process of _actually_ benefitting from technological improvements is not a straight line, and often requires some external intervention.

e.g. it’s interesting to note that the rising power of specific groups of workers as a result of industrialisation + unionisation then arguably led to things like the 5-day week and the 8-hour day.

I think if (if!) there’s a positive version of what comes from all this, it’s that the same dynamic might emerge. There’s already lots more WFH of course, and some experiments with 4-day weeks. But a lot of resistance too.

Re:How the AI Bubble Will Pop by _heimdall on Thursday October 02, 2025 @07:53AM (#45448483)
My understanding is that the 40 hour work week (and similar) was talked about for centuries by workers groups but only became a thing once governments during WWI found that longer days didn't necessarily increase output proportionally.

For a 4 day week to really happen st scale, I'd expect we similarly need the government to decide to roll it out rather than workers groups pushing it from the bottom up.

Re:How the AI Bubble Will Pop by throw0101d on Thursday October 02, 2025 @09:09AM (#45449158)
> My understanding is that the 40 hour work week (and similar) was talked about for […]

See perhaps:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight-hour_day_movement

Generally it only really started being talked about when "workers" became a thing, specifically with the Industrial Revolution. Before that a good portion of work was either agricultural or domestic, so talk of 'shifts' didn't really make much sense.

Re:How the AI Bubble Will Pop by _heimdall on Thursday October 02, 2025 @10:04AM (#45449753)
Oh sure, a standard shift doesn't make much sense unless you're an employee. My point was specifically about the 40 hour standard we use now though. We didn't get a 40-hour week because workers demanded it, we got it because wartime governments decided that was the "right" balance of labor and output.
Re:How the AI Bubble Will Pop by throw0101d on Thursday October 02, 2025 @09:04AM (#45449102)
> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Technological-Revolutions-Financial...

Yes, that is the first link of my/GP post.

Re:How the AI Bubble Will Pop by idiotsecant on Thursday October 02, 2025 @07:48AM (#45448440)
Importantly, however, canals did end up changing the world.

Most new tech is like that - a period of mania, followed by a long tail of actual adoption where the world quietly changes