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Re:Building a 30 PB storage cluster in the heart of SF by Aurornis on Wednesday October 01, 2025 @12:58PM (#45440092)
> Our reliability came from software not hardware, though of course we had hundreds of spares sitting by, the defense in depth (multiple datacenters, each datacenter having 2 'brains' which could hotswap, each client multiply backed up on 3-4 machines)...

Of course, but building and managing the software stack, managing hundreds of spares across locations, spanning across datacenters, having a hotswap backup system is not a simple engineering endeavor.

The only way to reach this point is to invest a very large amount of time into it. It requires additional headcount or to put other work on pause.

I was trying to address the type of buildout in this article: Small team, single datacenter, gets the job done but comes with tradeoffs.

The other type of self buildout that you describe is ideal when you have a larger team and extra funds to allocate to putting it all together, managing it, and staffing it. However, once you do that it's not fair to exclude the cost of R&D and the ongoing headcount needs.

It's tempting to sweep it under the rug and call it part of the overall engineering R&D budget, but there is no question a large cost associated with what you described as opposed to spinning up an AWS or Cloudflare account and having access to your battle-tested storage system a few minutes later.

Re:Building a 30 PB storage cluster in the heart of SF by wongarsu on Wednesday October 01, 2025 @01:24PM (#45440413)
To be fair, what's described here is much more robust than what you get with a simple AWS setup. At a minimum that's a multi-region setup, but if the DCs have different owners I'd even compare it to a multi-cloud setup.
Re:Building a 30 PB storage cluster in the heart of SF by calvinmorrison on Wednesday October 01, 2025 @07:27PM (#45444828)
not multi-cloud but multi-infrastructure. Yes there were naturally different owners since there were colos in NY, west coast, netherlands, etc.
Re:Building a 30 PB storage cluster in the heart of SF by g413n on Wednesday October 01, 2025 @01:09PM (#45440211)
not caring about redundancy/reliability is really nice, each healthy HDD is just the same +20TB of pretraining data and every drive lost is the same marginal cost.
Re:Building a 30 PB storage cluster in the heart of SF by jeffrallen on Wednesday October 01, 2025 @02:03PM (#45440963)
When you lose 20 TB of video, where do you get 20 TB of new video to replace it?