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Re:Snapdragon X2 Elite ARM Laptop CPU by kkaske on Wednesday September 24, 2025 @07:56PM (#45367458)
If Snapdragon (or ARM players in general) wanted to challenge x86 and Apple dominance, do they need to compete in the exact same arena? Could they carve out a niche (example: ultra-efficient always-on machines) and then expand?
Re:Snapdragon X2 Elite ARM Laptop CPU by 0x457 on Wednesday September 24, 2025 @08:16PM (#45367645)
Are you aware of countless SoCs meant for use in smartphones and below? This is them expanding.
Re:Snapdragon X2 Elite ARM Laptop CPU by kkaske on Wednesday September 24, 2025 @08:29PM (#45367740)
Exactly! That makes this move all the more interesting. The smartphone SoC market is saturated, and margins are shrinking. Laptops/PCs give Qualcomm a chance to leverage its IP in a higher-ASP segment. Expanding is logical, but the competitive bar is way higher.
Re:Snapdragon X2 Elite ARM Laptop CPU by adrr on Wednesday September 24, 2025 @08:32PM (#45367771)
Also a bunch of Chromebooks with MediaTek chips.
Re:Snapdragon X2 Elite ARM Laptop CPU by mortsnort on Wednesday September 24, 2025 @08:10PM (#45367589)
Apple chips are ARM chips.
Re:Snapdragon X2 Elite ARM Laptop CPU by kkaske on Wednesday September 24, 2025 @08:36PM (#45367805)
“ARM chip” is a pretty broad umbrella. Apple’s M-series is based on the ARM ISA, the microarchitecture is Apple’s own design, and the SoCs are built with very different cache hierarchies, memory bandwidth, and custom accelerators. I was simply using Apple as an example of another big player.
Re:Snapdragon X2 Elite ARM Laptop CPU by zeusk on Wednesday September 24, 2025 @09:05PM (#45368059)
Well so is the snapdragon X elite, including the older snapdragons (anyone remember scorpion cores on QSD8x50?)