News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:macOS becomes iOS: Safari video controls by giraffe_lady on Wednesday September 24, 2025 @11:24AM (#45361673)
> The short answer is they disrupt the mouse's environment in ways that are unpredictable and uncontrollable.

For example like will my wifi work today. Will my laptop still have any battery when I open it. Is today the day I surprise boot to tty and have to figure out what changed before I can start working.

I'll stick with the year-to-year unpredictability of apple over the day-to-day unpredictability of linux.

Re:macOS becomes iOS: Safari video controls by StopDisinfo910 on Wednesday September 24, 2025 @11:36AM (#45361842)
Linux doesn't magically update itself. If it works today, it's going to work tomorrow unless you break it.
Re:macOS becomes iOS: Safari video controls by giraffe_lady on Wednesday September 24, 2025 @02:51PM (#45364495)
Alas the cross of a dumbass programmer is a heavy one. I need an OS that is harder to break I reckon.
Re:macOS becomes iOS: Safari video controls by b_e_n_t_o_n on Wednesday September 24, 2025 @04:11PM (#45365409)
I too am especially prone to breaking my OS, as well as the software that runs on it. You aren't alone lol.
Re:macOS becomes iOS: Safari video controls by cosmic_cheese on Wednesday September 24, 2025 @03:12PM (#45364737)
I dunno about that. Bleeding edge distros like Arch are infamous for breaking in random ways for those updating without paying attention and even distros that are considered more stable like Fedora and Ubuntu can from time to time break drivers or random smaller things. Definitely a YMMV sort of thing.
Re:macOS becomes iOS: Safari video controls by kergonath on Wednesday September 24, 2025 @03:15PM (#45364778)
What are we going to do, then? Stop updating the OS and accumulate security issues? Stop doing anything that might possible touch an obscure config file somewhere in the bowels of the OS? It’s just unrealistic. "Do not update" cannot be a solution, it’s worse than the problem it is supposed to solve.
Re:macOS becomes iOS: Safari video controls by StopDisinfo910 on Thursday September 25, 2025 @03:00AM (#45370002)
I’m responding to someone pretending their system randomly breaks in the morning as per magic. This simply doesn’t happen, period.

A Linux system stays the same unless you change it.

I also personally disagree that updates break system by the way. I have used Arch for more than a decade and has yet to experience one of this alleged frequent disturbance.

Re:macOS becomes iOS: Safari video controls by giraffe_lady on Thursday September 25, 2025 @10:17AM (#45372898)
You said magic twice attacking me but I said it zero times. It's just not even a "good" bad read of what I did say.

What I'm talking about is changes because of updates, yes. Auto updates, or ones I did, or an update to specific software that caused a library update to break something else. All that counts as "me changing it" sure. Like I said I guess I need a system a little less prone to breaking because of my actions. I'm a programmer not a linux admin.

Re:macOS becomes iOS: Safari video controls by ryanjshaw on Wednesday September 24, 2025 @05:27PM (#45366173)
Not sure what point you’re making, are you saying to never update your system?

Not updating your system is not a magic solution either. I ran Linux Mint for 9mo and twice during that time I ended up in a bizarre situation:

1. the menu bar, or whatever it’s called (taskbar/dock equivalent) had disappeared on boot and I spent about 2 hours trying to get it back

2. the system simply wouldn’t boot into Cinnamon anymore; I ended up reinstalling

Bought a MBP and while it has some annoying quirks I don’t have any crazy ruined-my-day issues anymore.

Re:macOS becomes iOS: Safari video controls by tpmoney on Wednesday September 24, 2025 @11:27PM (#45368983)
By the same token, mac os isn't going to change in unpredictable ways if you never update it either.
Re:macOS becomes iOS: Safari video controls by chuckadams on Wednesday September 24, 2025 @03:55PM (#45365226)
Use an immutable distro like Bluefin or Aurora and you can just boot to yesterday's version.

(macOS is my daily driver too, but I wouldn't mind having that feature)

Re:macOS becomes iOS: Safari video controls by graemep on Thursday September 25, 2025 @04:47AM (#45370631)
Has Apple never done an update that breaks something? This seems worse than anything I have heard of with linux: https://www.tomsguide.com/phones/iphones/ios-18-4-1-update-i...

In practice, even with a rolling release distro I have not had things break on an update in a very long time (not at all on my current install, which is two years old), and with stable distros its literally been 20 years since something did not boot.

Any OS seems to have some bugs on updates.

I have heard battery life is better so not arguing about that, but its rarely that I will not wake my laptop for more than a day or two so its not a problem I experience either.