Re:Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year
by actionfromafar on Thursday September 18, 2025 @04:48AM
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You can deploy it self-hosted without paying any fee, so you control your data much more.
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Re:Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year
by wltr on Thursday September 18, 2025 @04:58AM
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Last time I checked they cripple the self-hosted version, asking to subscribe for enterprise plan here and there. Source: deployed their chat locally a couple of weekends ago. Overall, I liked their Slack clone, they this one was a red flag to me. Now I’m not sure we want to deploy this, but I know very little alternatives. Zulip, but it cripples its self-hosted version too. It allows just 10 mobile users (notifications). Maybe Matrix it is then, but it’s not very suitable for airgapped company-wide deployment.
Re:Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year
by Arathorn on Thursday September 18, 2025 @05:58AM
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> Maybe Matrix it is then, but it’s not very suitable for airgapped company-wide deployment
Element is literally built for airgapped company-wide deployments - this is precisely what https://element.io/server-suite is? It was originally built to install onto SIPRnet; it's been airgap-first since day 1.
Re:Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year
by wltr on Thursday September 18, 2025 @09:39AM
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Hi Matthew, thanks for the clarification. Then, Matrix is the only player who does not cripple self-hosted instances, I assume.
Re:Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year
by Arathorn on Thursday September 18, 2025 @12:09PM
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Matrix is the protocol, so doesn’t do implementations (just like w3c doesn’t do web servers any more). But the distribution from Element indeed is self-host first, and doesn’t break stuff if you’re airgapped. The paywall (such as it is) is that features which empower the enterprise over the user are paid, whereas one which empower the end-user are FOSS.