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Re:Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of g... by natch on Wednesday September 17, 2025 @09:33AM (#45275641)
Palestinians is a problematic word. Golda Meir was a Palestinian; she said so herself and her proof was that she had a Palestinian passport. Does that mean Palestine was a country? No, it was just a designation for a region that contained places such as Israel and Jordan. Did you mean to say "arab" or "muslim" or "muslim arab"?

The Palestinians you have in mind are getting the treatment they are getting because they have not stopped being violent and holding hostages. This is a pattern that recurs over years and decades, always with the same side instigating violence. Yes the "Palestinians" lost some land after starting wars and losing said wars. That's what happens when you start needless wars against good people. Unfortunately there are some Palestinian and Israeli civilians caught in the middle. Your sympathy seems to be only with those civilians from the side who started the conflict, not with those civilians from the side trying to end it.

Re:Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of g... by Swenrekcah on Wednesday September 17, 2025 @10:28AM (#45276252)
My sympathies are with all the civilian population in the area.

By your own logic here, you would suggest that the people killed in the heinous terrorist attack in october 2023 were killed because they did not stop being violent?

Of course that is a ridiculous statement.

Palestinians have been oppressed and attacked and their land taken, by Israel, for many decades. This does not justify terrorist attacks, but neither do the attacks justify what Israel has done.

We can keep in mind that the most promising peace deal was sabotaged by extremists from Israel.

I have no sympathy for terrorists of any nationality or designation, which is why I condemn both Hamas and the current administration of Israel.

Re:Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of g... by natch on Wednesday September 17, 2025 @01:17PM (#45278647)
> their land taken, by Israel

Some of them stayed peacefully and are now happy citizens of Israel and those ones kept their land.

Others left on their own volition and at the recommendation of their own leaders after their side started a war and lost. And those ones have not been allowed to return and have lost their land. That’s what happens when you start a war and lose.

Others have been given land by Israel in deals where we have seen the result (the new gazans immediately burned to the ground the prosperity-building greenhouses that the Israelis left for them).

Re:Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of g... by Viliam1234 on Wednesday September 17, 2025 @03:40PM (#45280494)
> Others left on their own volition

That's a nice euphemism for "they saw the next village massacred, so they ran away when the army approached their village".

Re:Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of g... by natch on Wednesday September 17, 2025 @06:10PM (#45281980)
Massacres happened on both sides, but one side (the instigators) had leadership telling them to flee, maybe because it wasn't really their homeland to begin with; they were just settlers from all over the region. And the other side stayed, because it was their ancestral homeland.
Re:Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of g... by Viliam1234 on Sunday September 21, 2025 @02:48PM (#45325515)
Have you done a survey, like how many people ran away because of the massacres per se, and how many ran away because their leaders told them to (for reasons unrelated to avoiding a possible massacre)?

You seem to assume that it is 0% of the former and 100% of the latter, which I find dubious.

Because even if it is let's say 50% and 50%, it is no longer true to say that all have left voluntarily.

Re:Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of g... by kelvinjps on Wednesday September 17, 2025 @04:21PM (#45280920)
There is the belief that Palestinians are the ones living in the area of British palestina and that Israel are also considered Palestinians and there should be one state