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Re:Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of g... by cjs_ac on Wednesday September 17, 2025 @05:09AM (#45273536)
Genocide is both extreme and labour-intensive. No one wakes up in the morning and decides to become an extremist; it takes an awful lot to turn someone into an extremist. That 'awful lot' has to happen to many people for a genocide to actually happen.

The genocide itself is simple enough; the thousands of years of conflict leading to the genocide are not. Anyone who believes they can unpick all that history to come to a neat conclusion about who are the 'goodies' and who are the 'baddies' is a fool.

My only interest in this conflict is in keeping it as far away from myself, my kith and my kin as possible.

Re:Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of g... by pjc50 on Wednesday September 17, 2025 @05:49AM (#45273778)
Nazi Germany provided people the opportunity to become an extremist by answering a job ad, and put together a whole murderous infrastructure of extremism in about a decade.
Re:Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of g... by octopoc on Wednesday September 17, 2025 @09:34AM (#45275649)
The vast majority of Germans had no idea about the holocaust. It wasn't even well known outside Germany until a decade later IIRC.

What's happening in Gaza is different because now we have cell phones and the Internet, and AI isn't quite good enough yet to fake a genocide.

Re:Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of g... by TheCoelacanth on Wednesday September 17, 2025 @12:46PM (#45278252)
That's certainly not true. They perhaps didn't know the full details, but Hitler was very clear about his intention to eradicate Jews from Europe even in 1939 when the Holocaust had barely started.

They definitely knew that Jews were being rounded up and sent to camps for slave labor in horrid and dangerous conditions that would kill many of them.

Re:Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of g... by jajko on Wednesday September 17, 2025 @05:21AM (#45273597)
There are no goodies in this conflict, it doesn't matter whether some folks refuse to acknowledge their own tribe or ethnicity is doing or done some absolutely horrible things. No amount of whatabouttism is changing that, rest are details.

When anybody has doubts about how fucked up world and humans are, I just direct them into this medium-term conflict, facts are easy enough to find.

Re:Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of g... by etc-hosts on Wednesday September 17, 2025 @10:56AM (#45276611)
I actually do think there are people in the Israeli government who wake up in the morning and work very hard all day planning on how to move every single Palestinian, dead or alive, out of Gaza and the West Bank.
Re:Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of g... by _DeadFred_ on Wednesday September 17, 2025 @11:28AM (#45277019)
Well we know for a fact that plenty in the Gaza strip, West Bank, and west do this kind of thinking but for Israelis.
Re:Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of g... by velcrohn on Wednesday September 17, 2025 @06:25PM (#45282151)
Sources?