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Re:Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of g... by SilverElfin on Tuesday September 16, 2025 @10:07PM (#45270738)
Have you considered that it isn’t voter expectation outside of a small minority of the party?
Re:Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of g... by protocolture on Tuesday September 16, 2025 @10:58PM (#45271103)
Have you considered that if they lose an election without that minority, then they still lose the election.

Like a political partys job is to get votes. An electorates job is to withhold votes to punish poor performance. The entity not doing their job here is the party.

Re:Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of g... by jfengel on Tuesday September 16, 2025 @11:41PM (#45271404)
The political party's job is to get votes. Which includes keeping the votes they already have. Giving things to one wing of the party can cost votes to the other wing.

The party is aware of the trade-offs. It goes ahead with its best estimation of what will win. Sometimes they can do everything right and still lose. One such scenario is when people would rather have the greater of two evils rather than be responsible for the lesser.

Re:Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of g... by protocolture on Wednesday September 17, 2025 @12:00AM (#45271514)
Sure and its possible thats what happened. But looking at their behaviour, its more like they thought they could use Trump to force everyone to fall in behind them regardless of policy.
Re:Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of g... by underlipton on Wednesday September 17, 2025 @12:41AM (#45271748)
The only way Democrats would have lost votes is if the "Vote Blue No Matter Who" folk weren't really prepared to vote blue, no matter who. Democrats didn't lose their base, they lost their left; theoretically, there's no leftist policy they could take on that would lose them their base, because it's their base.
Re:Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of g... by Peritract on Wednesday September 17, 2025 @04:38AM (#45273361)
That was (potentially) a reasonable argument before the election, but the election happened and we know the results.

"We can't adopt [potentially winning strategy] because it might harm [definitely non-winning strategy]" is not a reasonable position. You don't have to adopt any specific alternative plan, but clinging to a non-working plan clearly isn't the right answer.

Re:Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of g... by DangitBobby on Tuesday September 16, 2025 @10:44PM (#45271019)
Maybe at the time it was. Not so much anymore.

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/support-for-israel-contin...