Re:Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of g...
by jbstack on Wednesday September 17, 2025 @04:04AM
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So what? The fact that Hamas or its supporters produce fake anti-Israel propaganda doesn't mean that Israel isn't committing genocide. To suggest so is to engage in the fallacy of composition (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy_of_composition):
(1) "Hamas produces a lot of fake anti-Israel propaganda" -> (2) "All anti-Israel evidence is fake" -> (3)"Israel is not committing genocide".
You can't reach conclusion (2) from (1).
Re:Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of g...
by adastra22 on Wednesday September 17, 2025 @05:06AM
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You: "Look at these videos showing genocide in Gaza!"
Him: "Those videos are demonstrably fake."
You: "Doesn't matter!"
Are you sure that's the right fallacy?
Re:Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of g...
by jbstack on Wednesday September 17, 2025 @07:54AM
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At no point did I ever point to a video and say that it shows genocide, so your first line is invented. Here's a more accurate version:
Him: "Here is some evidence that some videos have been faked" Me: "The fact that some have been faked doesn't mean there aren't real ones"
So yes, it's the right fallacy.
Re:Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of g...
by Hikikomori on Wednesday September 17, 2025 @07:37AM
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Re:Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of g...
by ragazzina on Wednesday September 17, 2025 @04:56AM
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>"anti-Israel" narratives are being crafted by powerful forces.
If we are talking about propaganda machines, US/CIA are "pro-israel". Facebook/Google are "pro-israel". Russia/KGB are "pro-israel". India is "pro-israel". Mossad is "pro-israel".
Which "powerful forces" are on the same level but on the opposite side?
https://honestreporting.com/behind-the-headlines-the-data-th...
https://www.newsweek.com/mainstream-media-biased-against-isr...
https://www.ajc.org/news/podcast/journalist-matti-friedman-e...
https://icejusa.org/2025/05/22/anti-israel-media-bias-ratche...
"blame the 'evil' Jews" is one of Western Civilization's favorite "games" for some reason. "Their culture values education, frugality, they don't accept Jesus Christ as 'the Messiah', they must be evil!"
(I'm not Jewish, but many of my close friends are, and I've read a lot of history/religion/politics books)
https://www.betterworldbooks.com/product/detail/on-democraci...
https://www.audible.com/pd/On-Democracies-and-Death-Cults-Au...
https://www.betterworldbooks.com/product/detail/when-christi...
*edited typos and capitalization