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Re:Scammed out of $130K via fake Google call, spoofed Google... by wmf on Tuesday September 16, 2025 @02:50PM (#45266265)
I don't know about that. If they can hack your Google/iCloud account they can add a new device, sync all your passkeys to that device, then log into all your other accounts.
Re:Scammed out of $130K via fake Google call, spoofed Google... by acdha on Tuesday September 16, 2025 @03:18PM (#45266641)
How do they do that if you are incapable of giving them a valid authentication code?

I don’t use Google but at least in the Apple world you also get a fairly different prompt for enrolling a new iCloud Keychain device than simply logging in. Obviously that’s not perfect but there is a good argument for not getting people accustomed to hitting okay for both high and low impact challenges using the same prompt.

Re:Scammed out of $130K via fake Google call, spoofed Google... by ameliaquining on Tuesday September 16, 2025 @03:09PM (#45266518)
But they can't hack your Google or iCloud account if it's secured with a passkey, unless they have some other non-phishing means of doing so, which the attacker in this story presumably did not.
Re:Scammed out of $130K via fake Google call, spoofed Google... by Symbiote on Tuesday September 16, 2025 @04:46PM (#45267799)
I had to reset the 2FA for a domain admin account for Google Apps earlier this year — I'm not sure if my password manager somehow lost the passkey, or if I missed creating one before some deadline. (It's a little-used domain.)

I think I requested the reset with various details, then had to wait 24 hours before continuing.

Re:Scammed out of $130K via fake Google call, spoofed Google... by acdha on Wednesday September 17, 2025 @08:40AM (#45275148)
I feel like a lot of things would benefit from that time delay and, perhaps, an in person check like the notary ID verification AWS used to use.

About a decade ago I had suggested to Google at an identity forum that they embrace a local government/organization model for their hard-landing account recovery process (since it can ultimately devolve to an ID check) by having a mechanism where you can start the account reset process and get something which could be taken to a third party to approve after they do an ID check. As people increasingly depend on things like email accounts for everything there are a constant stream of people who will lose access to their phones but could easily visit a notary, library, DMV, police station, etc. and pass a check against a pre-registered government ID.