React Won by Default – and It's Killing Front End Innovation

Re:React Won by Default – and It's Killing Front End Innovation by balamatom on Tuesday September 16, 2025 @12:58AM (#45258167)

Yes. Innovation used to measured in gigaquacks. A decade ago.

With the process improvements of 2025, if it doesn't take you an innovation pool of at least 16 petaquacks to display a webpage, are you even trying?

Anyone else up downscaling their innovation?

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Re:React Won by Default – and It's Killing Front End Innovation by sixtyj on Tuesday September 16, 2025 @02:09AM (#45258594)

I love boring stack. No nodejs and its dependence hell, no compilation, no frameworks that need reading encyclopedia to make a simple form :)

PHP or blazing fast PHP-fpm, MySQL/MariaDB or Postgres, json for config, jQuery… it is good enough for most cases.

For Netflix, Spotify, Facebook, Waze, and other heavily used sites with millions users… it is a different game.

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Re:React Won by Default – and It's Killing Front End Innovation by balamatom on Tuesday September 16, 2025 @06:29AM (#45260399)

Node.js is boring stack for me.

But instead I am asked to work with tools from the wet nightmares of React developers.

Stuff that runs in Node - yet is designed as if Node, the DOM, or the OS, didn't exist.

Now that's never boring. They can't even consider that everything might work better without their favorite tool, than with it. It's surreal. And awful.

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Re:React Won by Default – and It's Killing Front End Innovation by sixtyj on Wednesday September 17, 2025 @01:14AM (#45271962)

Some people seek innovation. :)

Everytime I see some new editor, I know that people are really innovative because THIS will be THE ONE. /s

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