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Re:React Won by Default – and It's Killing Front End Innovation by gitaarik on Monday September 15, 2025 @11:47PM (#45257840)
React was innovative when it just appeared 12 years ago. But a few years after there were already many other frameworks doing similar things. And since then it has been good enough, but not the leading innovative frontend framework anymore.

React has rather matured in dealing with it's own outdated Virtual DOM design, making it much more boiler platy than modern alternatives.

Re:React Won by Default – and It's Killing Front End Innovation by spanishgum on Tuesday September 16, 2025 @12:23AM (#45258003)
What metric would you use to define the leading frontend framework, and what is it?

I'm familiar enough with Angular, React, Flutter, Vue, and Svelte as big names in the ecosystem, but have really only done scrappy development with React and not much with the others.

Google trends seems to show React is still a leader [1], and React has more than double the amount of Github stars than any of the others I've mentioned except Flutter, by which it still leads a healthy margin.

- [1] https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?cat=32&date=today%2...

Re:React Won by Default – and It's Killing Front End Innovation by danlitt on Tuesday September 16, 2025 @02:27AM (#45258713)
They said "leading innovative framework", and innovative is the key word. The biggest player is almost never innovating, they are usually performing some kind of undeserved market capture.
Re:React Won by Default – and It's Killing Front End Innovation by gitaarik on Tuesday September 16, 2025 @02:53AM (#45258892)
Indeed, I meant leading in innovation.

React isn't innovating, it's just improving what it already does, but it doesn't do it in a new way.

That makes it stable, and a safe choice for devs. But yeah indeed like the article says, it kind of stagnates innovation in the ecosystem. But yeah I guess that is because React is usually "good enough" in most cases. Not enough reason to use something else.

Re:React Won by Default – and It's Killing Front End Innovation by itake on Tuesday September 16, 2025 @02:12AM (#45258614)
This FE survey also has React leading by a wide margin:

https://2024.stateofjs.com/en-US/libraries/front-end-framewo...

Re:React Won by Default – and It's Killing Front End Innovation by la_oveja on Tuesday September 16, 2025 @03:14AM (#45259046)
why the sudden angular rise last month?