Linux phones are more important now than ever

Re:Linux phones are more important now than ever by joshdavham on Monday September 15, 2025 @10:52PM (#45257517)

Pardon my potentially naive question, but would Samsung ever develop their own OS? I imagine they're not necessarily happy about some of the latest changes to android.

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Re:Linux phones are more important now than ever by internet2000 on Monday September 15, 2025 @10:56PM (#45257548)

Bada and Tizen. They've been trying for 15 years. Tizen in particular is as Linux as it gets. Long story short: it's not something the market wants.

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Re:Linux phones are more important now than ever by joshdavham on Monday September 15, 2025 @11:01PM (#45257592)

Interesting!

> Long story short: it's not something the market wants.

Who knows. Maybe this could change?

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Re:Linux phones are more important now than ever by numpad0 on Tuesday September 16, 2025 @03:32AM (#45259170)

The market HAD changed to what it is now from what it was. Most handheld manufacturers had garbage mobile app platforms back in 2007. Something happened in January of that year and they all started coughing blood.

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Re:Linux phones are more important now than ever by j45 on Tuesday September 16, 2025 @12:35AM (#45258060)

The market doesn't care what it's coded in, its just about end user convenience and usability.

Android is Linux based, and so is iOS. They focused on the UX and what it took.

It leaves it possible for linux to do it again.

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Re:Linux phones are more important now than ever by SahAssar on Tuesday September 16, 2025 @04:14AM (#45259476)

Android does not use what we normally call a linux userspace. iOS is not at all linux based, although it is UNIX-like.

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Re:Linux phones are more important now than ever by j45 on Tuesday September 16, 2025 @12:10PM (#45264182)

I went to go check my memory :)

Android is based off, and runs off a linux kernel: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system). Android being modified in places including userspace is a fair point, but it's linux derived.

MacOS reminded me of it's BSD intermixings. Although the BSDs are separate from Linux, both were Unix alternatives. MacOS was downported to iOS. While iOS is not Linux at it's core, it's definitely based on an alternative to unix, similar to linux.

BSD references: https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/Ma...

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Re:Linux phones are more important now than ever by like_any_other on Tuesday September 16, 2025 @01:10AM (#45258228)

> it's not something the market wants.

If it was just "the market" guiding things, there would be no need to lock things down against consumers, or pulling bait-and-switches with slowly closing down the previously open-source Android, would there?

Please learn to recognize when you are under attack.

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Re:Linux phones are more important now than ever by ptx on Tuesday September 16, 2025 @07:42AM (#45260891)

If I recall correctly, Bada was already more locked down from the start, with app distribution only permitted with Samsung's approval. Otherwise I would have been interested in trying a Bada phone.

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Re:Linux phones are more important now than ever by spease on Monday September 15, 2025 @10:54PM (#45257534)

Yeah, they could call it Tizen or something.

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Re:Linux phones are more important now than ever by joshdavham on Monday September 15, 2025 @11:00PM (#45257586)

Please spare me the sarcasm...

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Re:Linux phones are more important now than ever by monocasa on Monday September 15, 2025 @10:54PM (#45257532)

They'd almost certainly just fork android like the various Chinese companies and Amazon have done.

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