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Re:Hosting a website on a disposable vape by parliament32 on Monday September 15, 2025 @01:06PM (#45252229)
> I wonder when in the West we'll start mining rubbish dumps

Never, because we have virtually unlimited space for landfills, and landfill tech has quietly been improving over the last few centuries, to the point that landfills are cheap, non-polluting, and entirely carbon neutral. Countries with less land mass (Europe et al) prefer incineration (mainly to save space, despite it being significantly worse for the environment and much more expensive (although with the newer energy reclamation efforts this is getting better)).

IMO it's not worth worrying about landfills too much. Household waste makes up about 3% of total landfill waste (when you add commercial/industrial/agricultural) in North America. You and your bun wrapper are truly irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.

Re:Hosting a website on a disposable vape by alanbernstein on Monday September 15, 2025 @02:39PM (#45253397)
This is backwards, it's not about eliminating the landfill, it's about recovering the materials which were previously not scarce but now are or will be soon.
Re:Hosting a website on a disposable vape by dannyw on Tuesday September 16, 2025 @01:09PM (#45264979)
Oil-plastics will increase in cost as it becomes more scarce.

Bioplastics are increasingly popular, research is making it better and easier to produce, etc.

I don’t fret over a plastic wrap. For one, if it’s bread in a supermarket, I want it wrapped, I don’t want someone’s sneeze on it.

Plastic for fruits and veggies that you rinse, that’s absurd.

Re:Hosting a website on a disposable vape by rblatz on Monday September 15, 2025 @03:19PM (#45253822)
I think it’s less about managing the environmental impact of landfills and more about eventually the concentration of desirable materials in landfills may end up higher than in known natural deposits. Or at least easier to refine and separate.
Re:Hosting a website on a disposable vape by BizarroLand on Monday September 15, 2025 @02:56PM (#45253584)
Landfills are likely chock full of Aluminum, Nickel-Cadmium, Lithium, copper, brass, and all sorts of useful metals and chemicals.

Sure, the grand majority is going to be food waste, but if you threw it all into an incinerator and melted down the ashes there is probably a decent blend of valuable material mixed in with the waste.

Re:Hosting a website on a disposable vape by distances on Monday September 15, 2025 @05:48PM (#45255356)
You don't have separate collection for food (bio) waste?
Re:Hosting a website on a disposable vape by BizarroLand on Monday September 15, 2025 @05:53PM (#45255414)
In the states it depends on the city/county/state and their legislation.

Some places do, some don't.

Re:Hosting a website on a disposable vape by L_226 on Tuesday September 16, 2025 @03:22AM (#45259085)
> carbon neutral

No. Poorly separated wastes in landfill cause non-trivial methane emissions and other VOCs [0]. While leachate _may_ be captured, most of the time methane is definitely not.

[0] - https://www.epa.gov/lmop/basic-information-about-landfill-ga...

Re:Hosting a website on a disposable vape by parliament32 on Tuesday September 16, 2025 @12:37PM (#45264557)
For historic, sealed landfills, perhaps. Modern regulations require methane (LFG) capture for all non-trivially-sized landfills. In 2015, 74% of US household waste ended up in a landfill with a system to capture methane and convert it to energy[1], I suspect the number has increased over the last decade.

[1] https://ensoplastics.com/theblog/?p=2557