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Re:Hosting a website on a disposable vape by motorest on Monday September 15, 2025 @11:56AM (#45251247)
What an interesting gadget! It looks like it has most of the features of an Orange Pi Zero, but at around 1/5th of the price.
Re:Hosting a website on a disposable vape by sitzkrieg on Monday September 15, 2025 @12:04PM (#45251359)
it's almost like everything matching the pi footprint is severely overpriced!
Re:Hosting a website on a disposable vape by motorest on Monday September 15, 2025 @02:04PM (#45252959)
There's a silver lining in raspberry pi and it's clones being so relatively expensive: they create a market and demand for hackable devices. In an age with so much pressure to plug every single digital hole, these devices bring some much needed market pressure to the opposite direction.
Re:Hosting a website on a disposable vape by TeMPOraL on Tuesday September 16, 2025 @03:23AM (#45259095)
Or, put another way: to have electronics so cheap today, we're sacrificing empowerment technology could give us. We have dirt cheap supercomputers in our pocket, but what for? They're just overspecced entertainment machines.
Re:Hosting a website on a disposable vape by bigiain on Monday September 15, 2025 @06:51PM (#45255944)
Gotta pay for the cop doing surveillance device r&d somehow...

https://www.theregister.com/2022/12/09/rpi_maker_in_residenc...

Re:Hosting a website on a disposable vape by tkfoss on Monday September 15, 2025 @07:47PM (#45256329)
Isn't Orange Pi Zero already sold at cost of material & labor?
Re:Hosting a website on a disposable vape by DrewADesign on Monday September 15, 2025 @07:59PM (#45256414)
I like the picos. I think there’s a lot of bang for your buck in there for making little devices and prototyping.
Re:Hosting a website on a disposable vape by cultofmetatron on Monday September 15, 2025 @08:16PM (#45256542)
what you're generally paying for is support and community. havin people you can ask questions and knowing there's a good chance that soneone out there has both seen your issue and knows a fix is extremely valuable and worth the money if you're just trying to put together a small one off project.
Re:Hosting a website on a disposable vape by Tepix on Tuesday September 16, 2025 @03:56AM (#45259329)
The original Raspberry Pi Zero was a good deal at $5 or even at $10. Too bad it was always poorly available and mostly bundled with overpriced dongles, power supplies, SD cards etc.
Re:Hosting a website on a disposable vape by dspillett on Tuesday September 16, 2025 @05:55AM (#45260158)
The poor avaialbility was largely due to the great pricing: small commercial users scooped them up in the largest quanitites that they could because they were so competative against other options both in terms of pricce and having the advantage of decent support¹ unlike other inexpensive SoCs. Max-per-customer limits imposed by some distributors were not hard to get around. That meant it was difficult for the individual tinkerers that they were aimed at to get hold of them. And once an availability gap was spotted in the market the scalpers crowded in, so even those commercial users had trouble getting them at RRP.

If the current models were any cheaper, that might happen again. It is one of those places where the infamous “what the market will bare” works against us: unless you are buying in bulk you have the choice between paying more or having no availability at all.

People are willing to pay more the rPi units because of the support¹ and reliability². I know I am, last time I wanted a small unit like that I went straight for an rPi without even looking at the other options that might have been cheaper.

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[1] official + community

[2] While not perfect in that regard, no supplier is, and the Pis do seem to do better than others in that regard, especially when compared to anything noticable less expensive.

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Re:Hosting a website on a disposable vape by dspillett on Wednesday September 17, 2025 @05:35AM (#45273680)
> the poor availability was because they didnt make enough.

I mean, yeah, that is obvious. But for early products, especially when the level of demand is greater than expectations as it was for both the early Pi and PiZero variants, it is sometimes impractical to ramp up production and supply chains fast enough. If they had made a pile more before release and demand hadn't been that high they would have gone bust with a load of stock in warehouses.

> they blame supply chain issues around covid

You've got your timeline very compressed there. The first couple of Pi Zero variants (this thread started with “The original Raspberry Pi Zero was…”) and supply issues associated with them, were around quite a bit before the effects of C19 and the associated supply chain problems. The Pi Zero 2 was released during the time when the chip shortage and related problems were biting, but the previous version was released a couple of years before 2020 and the first version a couple of years before that.

Re:Hosting a website on a disposable vape by numpad0 on Tuesday September 16, 2025 @11:03AM (#45263285)
From what I've read online somewhere, Zero was a loss leader product made with input from Eric Schmidt, intended to be sold along attractive accessories. The Pi Foundation did try briefly but wasn't able to come up with the accessories, leading to that poor availability and WH variants that made little sense.