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Re:OpenAI Grove by theideaofcoffee on Friday September 12, 2025 @09:03PM (#45228407)
I’ll bite, but not in the way you’re expecting. I’ll turn the question back on you and ask why you think they need defending?

Their messaging is just more drivel in a long line of corporate drivel, puffing themselves up to their investors, because that’s who their customers are first and foremost.

I’d do some self reflection and ask yourself why you need to carry water for them.

Re:OpenAI Grove by atleastoptimal on Friday September 12, 2025 @09:09PM (#45228438)
I support them because I like their products and find the work they've done interesting, and whether good or bad, extremely impactful and worth at least a neutral consideration.

I don't do a calculation in my head over whether any firm or individual I support "needs" my support before providing or rescinding it.

Re:OpenAI Grove by 3np on Saturday September 13, 2025 @07:11AM (#45231147)
Perhaps the people you see as cynical have more research and/or experience behind their views on OpenAI than you. Many of us have been more naive in the past, including specifically towards Altman, Microsoft, and OpenAI.
Re:OpenAI Grove by fragmede on Saturday September 13, 2025 @03:13PM (#45234547)
Microsoft, especially, has a long history of malfeasance.