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Re:UK launches Project Octopus, thousands of interceptor dro... by ponector on Friday September 12, 2025 @06:22PM (#45227416)
>> The EU on the other hand is under existential threat from Russia

EU as an entity is under threat. But only few members bordering Russia actually feel the threat. Russia is not going to invade France or Spain anytime soon, they are relaxed.

Re:UK launches Project Octopus, thousands of interceptor dro... by 627467 on Friday September 12, 2025 @08:11PM (#45228147)
> Our threat is not Russia bringing its troops across the Pyrenees - Pedro Sanchez

> He also wrote that a 5 percent defense spending goal would jeopardize the country’s welfare system,

> Sánchez said that 17% of this year’s military spending would go to natural disaster relief.

The Spaniards are the only ones outright saying it, but seem very obvious that the silent (and overwhelmingly economical) majority in EU think this way

Re:UK launches Project Octopus, thousands of interceptor dro... by tim333 on Saturday September 13, 2025 @05:28AM (#45230682)
Spain is part of NATO and the EU though and so kind of obliged to help defend EU and NATO countries near Russia.
Re:UK launches Project Octopus, thousands of interceptor dro... by littlestymaar on Friday September 12, 2025 @06:43PM (#45227620)
That's the key problem yes.

The economic consequences of the war have been severe for Germany though, but they don't seem to care that much unfortunately…

Re:UK launches Project Octopus, thousands of interceptor dro... by rcxdude on Saturday September 13, 2025 @04:33AM (#45230390)
Which is a very short-sighted view, because a Russia that manages to expand its territory is a Russia that will look to continue to expand into a now-weaker Europe.