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Re:Over 100 ships have sailed with fake insurance from the N... by Mountain_Skies on Friday September 12, 2025 @04:08PM (#45226169)
Russia did not make Europe dependent on them for gas. Europe freely made that choice, even going so far as to do away with existing alternatives like nuclear in Germany. Trump even warned them. They had a wonderful time laughing at him while proclaiming the ignorant orange buffoon didn't understand Europe. Then Russia invaded Ukraine. Everyone then pretended Europe didn't make itself vulnerable while also ridiculing anyone who dared sound an alarm about the potential danger.

Europe wasn't forced. Europe chose and chose freely. Europe chose poorly.

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Re:Over 100 ships have sailed with fake insurance from the N... by asciii on Friday September 12, 2025 @04:16PM (#45226257)
If you're referring to the Nordstream pipeline, then Biden approved to have it blown as a calendestine operation. The EU parliament has admitted this.

Europe did choose poorly, but it's not like the U.S. is an amicable partner. They want to sell their gas at their preferred prices as well.

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Re:Over 100 ships have sailed with fake insurance from the N... by nradov on Friday September 12, 2025 @05:06PM (#45226769)
The EU parliament has "admitted" no such thing. But it would be great if the US provided some clandestine support for destroying Russian infrastructure. Burn it all.

https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/nord-stream-pipeline-explos...

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Re:Over 100 ships have sailed with fake insurance from the N... by hkpack on Friday September 12, 2025 @04:19PM (#45226296)
Yes, but if you remember, the consensus was that countries with economic ties don't go to wars. There were no illusions about Russia, but the idea was to tame it by making it prosper through trade with "rich EU".

A lot of people were calling this strategy stupid, but that was the consensus for multiple decades.

You can also tell that the strategy with China failed in exactly the same way.

So I think the world will be a very different place in the next millennia.

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