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Re:Corporations are trying, and now failing, to hide job ope... by ajross on Friday September 12, 2025 @02:41PM (#45225211)
> HR departments [...] believe that having white skin is a sin

Can we just stop? This is a meme, it's clearly never been true. It's extrapolating from a bunch of intemperate stuff said by oddball losers (yes, often in academic environments which encourage out-of-the-box thinking and speech[1]) to tar a bunch of extremely bland policies enacted by HR and hiring managers (to ensure that their masters don't get sued) with an ideological brush.

We people with "white skin" are very clearly doing just fine in the job market.

[1] Something that in other contexts we at HN think is a good thing!

Re:Corporations are trying, and now failing, to hide job ope... by zdragnar on Friday September 12, 2025 @04:08PM (#45226173)
I've watched HR people break the law discriminating against white job applicants in the name of DEI. One in particular was fired for it, but it'd be foolish to think that it isn't happening more elsewhere.
Re:Corporations are trying, and now failing, to hide job ope... by ajross on Friday September 12, 2025 @04:15PM (#45226253)
And the upthread commenter has personal experience with HR people discriminating too. So what? The answer is both cases is clear regulation, which is what DEI is about. Can it be misapplied? Sure. Do people do bad things? Obviously. Is the specific anti-white conspiracy you imagine a direct threat to society? Please.
Re:Corporations are trying, and now failing, to hide job ope... by zdragnar on Friday September 12, 2025 @05:08PM (#45226777)
How is DEI about clear regulation? Equity is literally the opposite of "equal opportunity". It presumes that your skin color matters more than your personal circumstances.

And no, I don't think it is a threat to society. You don't need to invent fake arguments to put in my mouth.

All I said was that the packaging DEI is wrapped up in is toxic (actually, I said poison).

Re:Corporations are trying, and now failing, to hide job ope... by lazide on Friday September 12, 2025 @06:26PM (#45227454)
I’ve personally, repeatedly, and in writing seen HR actively discriminate against white men - as in refuse to hire them, and actively go out of their way to push them out due solely to their skin color and gender. At major fortune 50 companies. For years.

And I’m not the only one.

In fact, consent decrees with the DOL and at least one major fortune 50 (Google) explicitly required them to do so, to maintain ‘proportional representation with the population’ because of ‘over representation’. Meanwhile, Indian men got a free pass (for one example).

Trump is mostly bullshit, but he’s in power because of bullshit like this pissing people off. That is a threat to society.

Mostly because none of the things he’s doing are going to actually solve the problem but just get people angrier and angrier at each other. But the problem, at least at one point, was very real.