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Re:The US is now the largest investor in commercial spyware by generalizations on Thursday September 11, 2025 @12:14PM (#45213311)
I suspect that in the very near future, the latter will dramatically decrease and the former dramatically increase. I wonder how that tradeoff will be perceived.
Re:The US is now the largest investor in commercial spyware by falcor84 on Thursday September 11, 2025 @12:18PM (#45213364)
What do you mean? What would lead to government surveillance decreasing?
Re:The US is now the largest investor in commercial spyware by wil421 on Thursday September 11, 2025 @12:25PM (#45213427)
No he means crime will dramatically decrease and surveillance will increase. I’d be inclined to agree.
Re:The US is now the largest investor in commercial spyware by falcor84 on Friday September 12, 2025 @03:23AM (#45219569)
D'oh, I suppose I just have some default mental schema that processed the sentence assuming "former" before "latter".
Re:The US is now the largest investor in commercial spyware by generalizations on Friday September 12, 2025 @12:56PM (#45224148)
Yeah, figured that making it hard to parse would make it more likely people were thoughtful about their replies. In this climate, it's likely to attract a flamewar if I just spell it out.
Re:The US is now the largest investor in commercial spyware by jrochkind1 on Thursday September 11, 2025 @12:29PM (#45213459)
Don't worry, the crime wont' actually decrease either.
Re:The US is now the largest investor in commercial spyware by hansvm on Thursday September 11, 2025 @12:29PM (#45213464)
Maybe. If we use our powers too capriciously then they'll deter behaviors other than criminal behaviors. Like that boat of alleged drug traffickers we recently blew up -- that looks more likely to discourage boating within 1000 miles of the US than any particular crime.
Re:The US is now the largest investor in commercial spyware by bregma on Thursday September 11, 2025 @12:55PM (#45213710)
As surveillance increases the definition of crime will expand.

Consider the incentives. Surveillance is costly. The only way to justify increasing surveillance costs is to demonstrate increasing intervention in criminal activity. If traditional crime is reduced, new crimes need to be introduced.

Once all the enemies of the state have been eliminated, it becomes mandatory to introduce new enemies of the state so they, too, can be rounded up. Eventually there will be no one left to come for and the surveillance technology will go unmonitored.

Re:The US is now the largest investor in commercial spyware by generalizations on Friday September 12, 2025 @12:52PM (#45224106)
You may very well be right about the outcome, though I doubt the government cares enough about justifying expenditures to make money the rationale.

In my experience, it's social crises that tend to be used to justify authoritarian power grabs - whether that's a political killing or a worldwide contagion.

Re:The US is now the largest investor in commercial spyware by corimaith on Thursday September 11, 2025 @01:51PM (#45214251)
The increase in crime is purely political problem emerging from the demands of a certain segment of middle and upper middle classes, not the government or working class.