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Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by bccdee on Thursday September 11, 2025 @12:28AM (#45207780)
Who are "we," and what is it that "you're" not putting up with? The last act of violence comparable to this (against a Republican, that is—two Minnesota Democrats were shot in June¹) was the 2024 attempt on Trump's life, where the shooter was a registered Republican who espoused anti-immigrant sentiments on social media².

I give it better than even odds that the Kirk shooter, if they have any coherent political views at all, is right of centre. That's where all the violent radicalization is happening right now.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_shootings_of_Minnesota_le... [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Matthew_Crooks#Politica...

Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by frumplestlatz on Thursday September 11, 2025 @01:23AM (#45208082)
You’re replying with the same, tired disingenuous and deflecting nonsense — as if we still lived in yesterday‘s world.

The moderate right who was open to engaging in dialogue with you was killed today.

Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by bccdee on Thursday September 11, 2025 @02:16AM (#45208407)
What "moderate right"? Charlie Kirk said stoning gay people was "God's perfect law when it comes to sexual matters."¹

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Kirk#LGBTQ_issues

Anyway, pointing out that the right is engages in political violence at astronomically higher rates than the left is hardly "deflection." I'm addressing and refuting your point directly.

Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by frumplestlatz on Thursday September 11, 2025 @09:15AM (#45211240)
Your lies aren’t worth discussing anymore. They killed the man who was open to debate.

Charlie was the moderate right, and how you speak about him after his death makes it clear what you think about me and my family.

You people have taken the moderate option off the table. The time for dialog is over.

Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by bccdee on Thursday September 11, 2025 @10:39AM (#45212237)
> how you speak about him after his death makes it clear what you think about me and my family.

…do you think stoning gay people is "God's perfect law"?

Obviously it's a tragedy that he was murdered, but he was a reprehensible person. I won't whitewash him.

Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by frumplestlatz on Thursday September 11, 2025 @11:31AM (#45212814)
The distortions and lies of omission you repeat are what got Charlie Kirk killed. He was a genuine, kind, thoughtful, and considered person who advocated for peaceful, reasoned debate with those with whom he disagreed.

A road to Weimar America has been paved by his death, the left's cynical and relentless vilification of the right, and its unwillingness to confront its own demons.